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Post by doubs43 on Dec 7, 2007 15:43:25 GMT -5
As a lady named Della once told a friend of mine: "I's not what king of equipment you have, it's how you use it that matters!" Seemed rather strange Della saying that as she wasn't a photographer. She may not have been a Photographer but she sure provides a strong mental image! Walker
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Post by John Parry on Dec 7, 2007 18:41:23 GMT -5
Wayne
Della was just trying to make your friend feel better ! LOL
Regards - John
ps Great shots Roy - do a post on that hyperfocus technique when you get time - I'd be interested for one.
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Post by drako on Dec 8, 2007 8:00:34 GMT -5
All this talk about "an extension of your eye" reminds me of a conflict I have with my new Kodak V570 digital. I bought it because the idea of having a pocket camera with a 21mm lens is revolutionary, liberating. And the camera has tons of other wiz-bang features.
But, my gosh, this camera has terrible ergonomics! Nothing "falls" under the fingers. It's sort of like hatha yoga for the hands.
My point is that, with the V570, I have gained something previously impossible -- a "pocket wide" -- but I'm also losing the possibility of an "eye extension". Because the ergonomics are crappy from the get-go, I know I will get only so far in the long run with becoming truly intuitive with this device.
Now, going even further, this reminds of when I was learning to play clarinet as a youth. The common practice is for the student to start on a "student" model, which basically means "cheap piece o' crap." Schools and parents hedge their bets on whether the student will follow through and continue playing long term. But the odds are stacked against the student from the start because a crappy clarinet will do little more than inspire frustration. Luckily, I was very motivated and pushed through until I obtained a wonderful ebony Yamaha clarinet, which I have still have and enjoy 30 years later. Playing a great instrument -- whether it's musical or photographic -- is a joy!
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Post by kiev4a on Dec 8, 2007 12:02:05 GMT -5
The thing that keeps my from trying to used a P&S digital for trips instead of lugging around a DSLR is few have lenses wider than 39mm and virtually all P&S have totally unacceptable shutter lag. If someone would come up with a P&S with 23mm at the wide end and maybe 180mm at the tele end--all in one lens--with no shutter lag, I probably would take a very close look.
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Post by Dave on Dec 8, 2007 12:22:32 GMT -5
In answer to Wayne's comment on P&S digitals, the reason I refuse to buy a DSLR even though I have film lenses which will fit is my Minolta Dimage A2. It is reasonably sized between a P&S and a DSLR, has a zoom from 28mm t0 200mm, image stabilization. I admit is has some shutter lag, but less than my wife's newer Canon P&s. I can't see any great advantage in a DSLR. Dave
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Post by mickeyobe on Dec 8, 2007 14:48:14 GMT -5
Dave,
That abominable shutter lag is more than sufficient reason to switch rather than fight.
Mickey
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Post by SidW on Dec 8, 2007 19:01:35 GMT -5
The thing that keeps my from trying to used a P&S digital for trips instead of lugging around a DSLR is few have lenses wider than 39mm and virtually all P&S have totally unacceptable shutter lag. If someone would come up with a P&S with 23mm at the wide end and maybe 180mm at the tele end--all in one lens--with no shutter lag, I probably would take a very close look. Wayne, there are no doubt several around that fit that spec., but I'd suggest the Canon Powershot G9 - raw format, takes external flash, real old fashioned viewfinder. The G series have always been highly regarded, but Canon have now dropped the f:2 standard zoom in favour of a longer range zoom. Full set of exposure modes including manual. Nice size, feels like a 1950s rangefinder. Or in secondhanded look for a G6 (can't remember if there was a G7, there was no G8), that still has the f:2 lens but a better sensor and less noise. My current hobbyhorse is that P&S is a method, not a design. Surely we've all stopped a wideangle lens down to 8 or 11, and set the distance to 2.5 or 3 m. in order to point and shoot and get everything sharp from here to eternity.
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Post by drako on Dec 10, 2007 17:47:09 GMT -5
Wayne,
The Kodak V570 is 21mm equivalent.
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Post by kiev4a on Dec 10, 2007 18:03:15 GMT -5
Kodak makes the 8 mp Easyshare P880 that has been discontinued but is still being sold. The lens is a 24-140mm f2.8. I still has some shutter lag but would have some advantages on a vacation from a size standpoint. The camera has developed somewhat of a cult following.
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