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Post by photax on Sept 27, 2011 15:23:28 GMT -5
Hi ! I visited the "Wachau"-valley ( UNESCO World Cultural Heritage), about 90km west from Vienna last weekend and had some prints of my glas-plate collection in my photo bag, trying to find the exact position to replicate these old pictures. The first one, taken about 1900 is a medieval gate in the small city of Duernstein on the river Danube: The fortificatet church of Weissenkirchen, built in 1530. The first picture is an 9x12 Autochrom colour glas-plate from 1911. I had to take a walk on the railway rails to get the right position. A thousand year old church in the very small village ( only 13 houses ) of St.Michael. The first picture is dated 1931. The church is still there, the street is gone. MIK
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Post by mickeyobe on Sept 27, 2011 17:45:43 GMT -5
MIK, What a fascinating project! It could keep one occupied for years. And you have done a superb job locating and photographing those sites. Please continue to show us more of your matches. MIK, this might interest you. www.groupofseven.ca/Adventures.aspxI don't think Europeans care very much for our famous Canadian artists and their impressionistic style of painting. Tom Thomson and the seven other artists who made up The Group of Seven are icons to most Canadian art lovers. Thomson, an experienced woodsman, died tragically in a canoe accident before the group was founded but he greatly influenced them. Mickey
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Post by daveh on Sept 27, 2011 19:03:17 GMT -5
Mickey, I don't think it is a case of not caring - more a case of not knowing. Thanks for the link. Of course I have heard of Tom Thomson, but on;y because you've mentioned him before. I see almost Japanese style in some of those paintings. Excellent stuff.
And talking about excellent stuff brings me to MIK's series. The top photo is obviously old - it;s recent "retake" is harder to date,at least at first glance.
One thing of interest in the second series is that the car is right hand drive. I know we have visited before that Austria drove on the left till around the time that photo was taken. It seems strange that the road has gone: all the other buildings seem to have gone with it. MIK, do you know why?
It's good to see the new buildings in the middle set blend well with the church and aren't too dissimilar to what was there before.
Super. More please!
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Post by nikonbob on Sept 28, 2011 13:09:12 GMT -5
MIK You have a lot of interesting projects on the go and this is one of them. Always interesting to see how things have changed. I am surprised by the dress of the women pushing the bike in the second photo. I remember my grandmother dressing similarly and would have thought that had gone out of fashion. To add to Mickey's comments on the group of seven I would also recommend Alex Colville www.cbc.ca/lifeandtimes/colville.html even though he is not a member of the group. I admire both Tommy Thomson and Alex Colville for their work as well as for their personal history. Bob
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Post by mickeyobe on Sept 28, 2011 15:00:39 GMT -5
Bob,
I used The Group of Seven/Tom Thomson and the searches of the Waddingtons as somewhat similar to MIK's search to photograph yesterday's subjects as they appear today.
There is never any question about the locations of Alex Colville's super realistic paintings.
Mickey
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Post by nikonbob on Sept 28, 2011 15:29:55 GMT -5
Mickey
Aaaaah, my bad. I was blind but now I see.
Bob
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Post by mickeyobe on Sept 28, 2011 22:51:13 GMT -5
Mickey Aaaaah, my bad. I was blind but now I see. Bob Bob, Not bad. Alex Colville deserves mention in any discussion about Canadian art. He is more than just a realist. He has a unique vision. But Dave, forgetting cousin Itt Adams. Unforgivable. Mickey
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Post by photax on Sept 29, 2011 13:38:56 GMT -5
Mickey, Have many thanks for the very interesting link, now I know some brilliant artists. Unfortunately I never heard about the group of seven before. As Dave mentioned, the pictures do have a Japanese influence. Killarney, on the other hand, sounds quite Irish. Dave, The houses are still there, but now they are obscured by the trees. In the bottom right of the last picture you can see the bypass along the river Danube, built in the 1950`s. On sunny days there is a lot of tourist traffic in the valley, also on the river: Bob, The woman is wearing a traditional costume which is typical for the area. At Sunday, going to church, they ( mostly elder women ) are wearing more magnificent costumes with golden caps. Here is a link ( with regional folk music ): MIK
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Post by mickeyobe on Sept 29, 2011 18:46:17 GMT -5
MIK,
Canada was a British colony and except for Quebec was colonized initially by English, Irish, Scottish and Welsh settlers. Hence, a great many of our place names originated in the British Isles. Of course, the names of our aboriginal predecessors were and are used extensively as well.
Mickey from Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
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Post by SidW on Oct 1, 2011 17:24:31 GMT -5
Fascinating pictures MIK.
We visited the Wachau a couple of times around 25 years ago, did a lot of walking there among the vineyards and along the Danube, just the sort of country you see on your glass plates. I bought some walking boots in Krems, appropriately named "Dachstein". Not sure if Dachstein counts as Wachau, it's a little further down the Danube. Was that where Richard III was held prisoner on his way home from Palestine?
Those were my Minolta XE5 days. Haven't scanned anything from the 1980s yet, I'll be returning to the Wachau when I do.
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Post by photax on Oct 4, 2011 14:34:11 GMT -5
Hi Sid ! Nice to hear from you :-) I also bought my "Dachstein" boots in Krems many years ago, I have been living there for many years. The Dachstein mountain is far away from the Wachau valley, it is located between Upper Austria and Styria, the Wachau is located in Lower Austria. You are right, Richard the Lionheart ( I think it was Richard I, but I may be wrong ) was held prisoner at the Duernstein castle ( picture below ) in the 12th century. On the way home from a crusade he was captured in Vienna for tearing down the flag of King Leopold at Akkon castle, spent a year in Duernstein and was "sold" to Germany by Leopold V King of Austria. MIK
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Post by SidW on Oct 4, 2011 16:35:35 GMT -5
Thanks Mik. Then you must've been living there when we visited Krems, maybe in the bootshop together! Small world. So I got the beginning and end of Duernstein right. The psychologists say that's the easiest to remember.
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Post by photax on Oct 6, 2011 14:16:14 GMT -5
Hi Sid,
I worked there at a photo shop at that time. maybe I sold you a roll of film, or a battery. I would be interested in your Austrian 1980`s scans, maybe you`ll show some of them :-)
MIK
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