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Post by Doug T. on Feb 4, 2012 15:02:51 GMT -5
I took this on my walk today. My Sister in law came in while I was downloading them, saw this one, and says she likes the reflection. I guess I do to. I didn't manipulate the shot, but left it as it was.  It was a good day. Doug |
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Post by daveh on Feb 4, 2012 15:34:44 GMT -5
Doug,
When I first glanced at the text I read it as "My Sister in law came while I was drowning".
hands up who likes the reflection. I've got mine up.
Dave.
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Post by mickeyobe on Feb 4, 2012 15:59:08 GMT -5
"hands up who likes the reflection. I've got mine up." Frank does. And me too. ☝
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Post by Doug T. on Feb 4, 2012 16:36:41 GMT -5
Thanks Guys! That's very encouraging! If you like reflections, here's another. Same spot, the other direction.  I read somewhere that this is one of New Yorks best spots for bird watching. There's a nice wetland with some trails going through it, but they are doing some maintenance on the trail, and it's been closed off till spring. I'm definately going back  Doug BTW, can you spot where I wiped out the equipment they left behind? |
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Post by colray on Feb 4, 2012 19:48:39 GMT -5
I've got mine up. twice  |
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Post by mickeyobe on Feb 4, 2012 20:18:59 GMT -5
Doug,
The shore line and the black area in front of the trees behind the shore on the right of the picture shows a repetitive pattern.
The long, narrow green area just above the sand on the left also looks like it may have been Photoshopped.
Mickey
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Post by Doug T. on Feb 4, 2012 20:41:36 GMT -5
You got it Mickey!
Not too good with the cloning tool yet, I need some more practice. Still, it looks better than the machine they had there.
Doug
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Post by daveh on Feb 4, 2012 21:12:30 GMT -5
Doug, I was just coming on to say that I had lost the photos (as I have said elsewhere our internet is sporadic at the moment what is is bringing up). I see Mickey has got it.
The analogue people would tell you to go back when the accoutrements had gone (in the real world that's not always possible) - or don't photograph it in the first place. Digital can however do all sorts of things. The repetitive problem with cloning is that it can be repetitive, if you see what I mean - and of course you do, as that is what you have there. The problem with cloning is that you need a similar area to clone from and if that area is small it isn't too easy. Recently Photoshop has introduced its 'content aware spot healing brush' which is a big leap forwards in realistic manipulation.
Don't set your clone tool too small. Also set it for feathered edge and sometimes bring the opacity down from 100%.
I've just re-cloned the area on the other computer and I'll try to uplaod the result if the internet will let me.
Dave.
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Post by daveh on Feb 4, 2012 21:34:46 GMT -5
Doug, sorry I'm not getting onto this forum on the other computer, nor am I able to get onto imageshack on either computer. I have re-jigged your photo but I can't post it. I'll try again later.
Some other things to do: blur and smudge tools can be used too, but quite often they just make it look a mess. Some times you can dodge (lighten) or burn (darken) on patches which are identical clones to make them look different to each other (more so if you vary whether you set the lighten/darken tool to high, mid or low tones). If you keep at it you find what works best.
Dave.
p.s. I'll give uploading of the photo another go. If nothing appears, you'll know that it hasn't worked.
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Post by daveh on Feb 4, 2012 21:41:25 GMT -5
 Tools used: clone, burn and dodge. Doug, another thing: it's often best to set view to 200% or more for working on an image - it makes it easier both to see what you are doing and to make the work being done more accurately placed |
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Post by mickeyobe on Feb 5, 2012 5:51:51 GMT -5
Dave,
That is much better.
The smooth green strip on the left could use a little roughing up. Perhaps bring the tree line further down.
Can you imagine ever performing these miracles in a conventional darkroom?
I owe much of my Photoshop ability to the always generous guidance of PeterW. He is missed.
Mickey
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Post by daveh on Feb 5, 2012 8:03:03 GMT -5
Certainly, Mickey, I couldn't. Perhaps someone like Georges Méliès would have been able to do it (though, of course, he was manipulating the moving image in the main).
p.s. I should have added: hands up too for the hands up photo.
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Post by Doug T. on Feb 6, 2012 17:43:34 GMT -5
Hi Dave! I've been playing with the cloning tool, and tried your suggestions. It works much better when I enlarge the view as you suggested. Thanks for the tip Doug |
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Post by daveh on Feb 6, 2012 20:48:33 GMT -5
Doug, Hey, as you get smaller the clone tool gets bigger! Mastering photoshopping is a bit like mastering photography itself. It takes time and many wrong attempts before getting things consistently right. The big difference is that, other than the original purchase, it costs nothing to fail: you can just rub it out and start again. Dave. |
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