truls
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Post by truls on Jun 13, 2013 19:31:54 GMT -5
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Post by pompiere on Jun 14, 2013 20:37:53 GMT -5
I had a Ricoh AF-2 once, one of several early auto focus cameras that I bought that summer. All of them cost between $1 and $3. The pictures came out okay, but the winder sounded like a coffee grinder. I heard other Ricohs sounded the same. I sold it for what I paid for it, but I kept the 46 mm filter.
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Post by truls on Jun 15, 2013 8:54:09 GMT -5
AF-2 is a similar camera, from the early days of AF point & shoot. My experience, Ricoh cared about the glass in the cameras, the results are technical good images compared to other p&s, even of later cameras.
olroy have published test photos from XR Rikenon 50mm in another forum post, a most Sharp and impressive lens. I could become a Ricoh p&s collector. Not very expensive cameras and they do not take much Space to collect, and the Ricoh quality factor. Most interesting.
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Post by Doug T. on Jun 15, 2013 17:29:13 GMT -5
Hi Truls! I also like the Ricoh p&shoot cameras. I've had the ff-1 and 1s (zone focus), that have super optics and fold up similar to the Minox. The ff-3af through ff-90 are excellent autofocus cameras, the ff-90 supposedly being one of the best point and shoots ever made The one I'd really like to find is the Shotmaster 130 super, very nice if you can find one! I've been looking for the very best point & shoots I can find, they don't cost a lot, but are a lot of fun to collect! I've even found a Cokin filter holder for my point and shoots. I don't believe that this type of camera are very popular yet, and finding information on them can be a challenge. Also, look up some of the Samsung cameras! The ECX, for example, had a design by Porsche and Schneider Kreuznach optics! Point and Shoot collecting can be fun, and more challenging than you'd think Doug
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Post by truls on Jun 15, 2013 19:51:41 GMT -5
Doug, thanks for the info! Yes, I consider collecting Ricoh's p&s, also for reasons you mention. I have a hard time finding out what was the first Ricoh AF camera produced, is it the Ricoh AD1 or A1? I will keep digging, Interesting also you mention Samsung p&s, but I have to limit to Ricoh at first. If I buy one camera each week i will have some in a year. The Ricoh GR models are awesome, I will have to get them too, even if they cost $$$.
Another question, most Ricoh p&s lenses are some 4 element/3 group construction, could it be a Tessar type lens?
BTW: There is a Shotmaster 130Z on the bay, is it different from Shotmaster 130 Super?
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Post by Stephen on Jun 16, 2013 7:36:59 GMT -5
If it is 4 elements 3 groups it is a Tessar Type lens, the worlds most common lens type, the classic is the Zeiss Tessar design of 1902 which was a fully Patented type of optical arrangement. The 1902 Rudolf patents lapsed early due to the First World war, and the design became a generic type, produced in millions by all the main optical makers. Any camera that did not use a Tessar used the cheaper three element lens types, and will be inferior on corrections, although may be as sharp if well made. Zeiss in the 1920's decided to use the name as a trademark, and sales pointer, continued by Carl Zeiss Jena, although again they lost the exclusive trademark due to WW2. Schneider's Xenar is a Tessar lens, they claimed better than Zeiss!
Ricoh are a very sound maker, they own Pentax these days as well as still making Ricoh cameras.
Stephen.
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Post by Doug T. on Jun 18, 2013 13:03:38 GMT -5
Truls, Hi! I'm not sure if the Shotmaster 130Z is the same camera. Cameras often have a different model designation in Europe. My guess would be that it's the same one. I'm watching an FF-90 at the moment. It's got a ridiculously low starting bid, I might bid on it Doug
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