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Post by genazzano on Feb 5, 2015 12:22:17 GMT -5
One of my favorite places is the Aeronautical museum in Bracciano, near Rome. There is an amazing collection of airplanes. Anyone care to name them?  |
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Post by philbirch on Feb 5, 2015 13:32:42 GMT -5
looks like a 'Marsupial' SM82 bomber. This plane could fly on one engine.
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Post by Stephen on Feb 5, 2015 15:37:06 GMT -5
Indeed it is a Savoia-Marchetti SM82 Marsupiale bomber, which was preceded by the SM.75 Marsupiale, but more widely used as transporter, and flew on into the 1960's.
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Post by genazzano on Feb 5, 2015 15:38:40 GMT -5
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Post by genazzano on Feb 5, 2015 15:43:09 GMT -5
No propeller and was propelled by a jet exhaust. However, although it predated the German jet fighter, it was often not considered to be a jet. In fact it was technically not a turbojet, but rather a "motorjet" which had been originally conceived of by Campini in 1932. On Youtube you can actually see this plane being fired up and flying in August 1940.   Note the seam in the fusilage just forward of the vertical stabilizer. At this conjunction the tail assembly was separated from the airframe exposing the jet propulsion tubes. Igniting the motorjet engine was a hazardous and awkward procedure for pilot and ground crew.  David |
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Post by Stephen on Feb 5, 2015 18:29:34 GMT -5
The Caproni Campini problem was the fuel consumption, and the short life of the piston engine powering the compressors as it had to run at max revs and power out, at all times whilst the jet was in operation. A pioneering design, but got nowhere. The Japanese tried a copy, but got the same results.
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Post by belgiumreporter on Feb 6, 2015 4:33:25 GMT -5
When i was in Brussels recently, i had some time to spare so i thought it would be a good idea to visit the museum of war. Not knowing what to expect i was completely blown away with their collection of war and fighter planes. I've had heard a rumour that "some" planes were on display but it was only part of the collection of the museum. Well if i knew what to expect in the first place i would have taken off the whole day to visit the museum and have taken along a camera with a loaded battery. Now i had to rush through the museum to get a brief overview of the enourmous amount of items on display and i would be more carefull in checking the battery status of my camera as halfway through i was finished photographing because of no more battery power. I'm planning to go back and this time be prepared . My wife was constantly giggeling when we went through the plane section and said i looked like a little kid in a candy store. She couldn't stop laughing when i said " o look there a spitfire and there another one and look over there a harrrier and ooh wow look at that f16," Yes indeed i must have looked silly as i got carried away seeing in real life all the aircrafts i've build as a kid in airfix scale models . Here's a pic wich gives a small inpression of what's on display, i was amazed standing next to the MIG 23 ( in the back left) at just how enormous such a fighter jet is it looked almost alien.  BTW, i like aircraft, but i'm not a specialist by far, i couldn't even tell wich plane is in the front of the picture, but i guess some of you might and even know it's tyre size  |
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Post by genazzano on Feb 6, 2015 12:34:41 GMT -5
As with cameras, I have no idea why I am so excited about being around old airplanes. My Dad was an aircraft mechanic in the American AAF during WWII working on fighters but I can't say he carried that through his life. Later he became a Federal agent, a long way from fighter planes. As a kidthe ceiling in my bedroom was covered with model airplanes which I loved dearly. So, now at almost 70, I go to the museums. Thank god my wife loves airplanes, and trucks and big hardware stores. This early bomber is absolutely breathtaking up close. Those guys must have been fearless.  Anyone know what it is? David |
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Post by philbirch on Feb 6, 2015 17:48:33 GMT -5
Planes are fascinating objects and fulfil mans oldest urge - to fly. Hardly surprising we get excited! We have an aerospace museum in Manchester near to my town. Its small but has some wonderful exhibits.
The Marsupial, the Cangaru... was someone in the factory obsessed with Australia?
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Post by Stephen on Feb 6, 2015 18:50:05 GMT -5
The Plane is a Camponi CA3, stretching my knowledge of Italian aeroplanes.............or copying the shot to the gimp and reading the board under the plane!!
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Post by Stephen on Feb 6, 2015 18:53:18 GMT -5
Planes are fascinating objects and fulfil mans oldest urge - to fly. Hardly surprising we get excited! We have an aerospace museum in Manchester near to my town. Its small but has some wonderful exhibits. The Marsupial, the Cangaru... was someone in the factory obsessed with Australia? Maybe Mussolini had visions on his new Roman Empire stretching into the Australian outback, given to him by Hitler after defeating the Britsh empire...........! Stephen |
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Post by julio1fer on Feb 6, 2015 20:02:19 GMT -5
Thanks for these pictures, I love airplane museums as well! Now I have two more to visit on my list! That early jet is a beautiful airplane. I have only visited the National Air and Space Museum in Washington D.C., and the Imperial War Museum in Duxford, near Cambridge in England. I had to be taken out from both, at closing time. There is our small local air museum too.  |
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Post by genazzano on Feb 7, 2015 2:20:18 GMT -5
The Plane is a Camponi CA3, stretching my knowledge of Italian aeroplanes.............or copying the shot to the gimp and reading the board under the plane!! Stephen I knew I should have cropped that pic. How about...  I should note that the museum was in the dark at the time. As soon as we had arrived, a tree fell nearby taking a powerline down. David |
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Post by Stephen on Feb 7, 2015 6:17:43 GMT -5
Macchi M.67, a contestant in the 1929 Schneider Air Races, for the Schneider Trophy, very similar to the later Supermarine which took the trophy outright.
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Post by genazzano on Feb 7, 2015 6:50:11 GMT -5
  Two V12's back to back each driving one of the counter-rotating props. David |
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