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Post by hannes on Apr 12, 2015 10:13:00 GMT -5
Hello: I was lucky and could add a nice, clean and complete Zenit 3M from 1963 with M39 Helios 44 lens to my collection. The camera came with leather case and a Jupiter 11 tele lens. I immediately tested the lens on my other Zenit 3M from 1970. Today I finished the roll and I looking forward to see the results. The lens seems to be from 1965 too. It is from KMZ and has a serial number starting with a single 0. It ist the verison 1.c with 13 blade aperture. The jupiter 11 which came with the camera is different from the one I allready have. I'll add some pictures later.    Interesting to see the changes between 1963 and 1970. The 1970 version uses allready some parts of the Zenit E  Left: 1963 Zenit 3M with Helios 44, right: 1970 Revueflex with Industar 50 from 1955 Hannes |
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Stan
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Post by Stan on Apr 12, 2015 15:26:11 GMT -5
That's a very nice one. I'd love to have one at some point in the future. Congrats on the find.
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Post by julio1fer on Apr 12, 2015 18:47:17 GMT -5
I just love the 3M and the Helios-44. It was my only camera for 14 years, never failed once. BTW I did not know that the lens could be removed. Those were the days.
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Post by philbirch on Apr 13, 2015 9:20:32 GMT -5
I just love the 3M and the Helios-44. It was my only camera for 14 years, never failed once. BTW I did not know that the lens could be removed. Those were the days. My mum clipped me round the ear when she saw I'd taken the lens of my Zenit B - she thought I'd just broken a camera that cost me 4 weeks wages! |
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Post by hannes on Apr 15, 2015 12:52:09 GMT -5
Here are pictures from the 2 Jupiter 11 for M39 Zenit I have. The left one is from 1965, the right one came with the Zenit 3M in this thread and is from 1962. Not that the later one has the quick step down ring which is also know from the Helios 44 lenses.    I like this lens because it is light and small. Hannes |
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Post by philbirch on Apr 16, 2015 9:04:43 GMT -5
Its a great lens. I must get one for my rangefinder.
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Stephen
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Post by Stephen on Apr 16, 2015 13:21:56 GMT -5
I have never found a bad 135 mm Jupiter ll lens, they are excellent all round lenses. Obviously they are not quite up to a vintage Leica sharpness at full aperture, but at F8 are about the same. It was after all a complete Zeiss design, although the Moscow Optical institute committee did claimed to have "improved" the design.....
The m39 thread lenses for the Zenit are quite rare in the UK, it was made before the importers, TOE ltd, were set up. Far more common are the Leica rangefinder M39, M39 without rangefinder cam, and the M42 fit for the later Zenit. Black variants of most models were made, mainly fo the Russian market or military uses.
The variant for the Kiev rangefinder just do not seem to have beeen exported in any quantities, when we sold Kiev cameras in the shop any request for supplies of the lenses was always, "we are awaiting the next batch", which under Soviet production could be a year or more away!
Stephen.
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Post by philbirch on Apr 16, 2015 14:16:18 GMT -5
There is always a good supply now for Kiev types and they're a lot cheaper than M39. I may get one when I've finished my Kiev-NEX adaptor.
I bought a Kiev in 1973 or 1974 and found the Zeiss lenses easier to get, and about the same price second hand as the Kiev ones. new.
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