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Post by raybar on Oct 13, 2017 10:26:36 GMT -5
In film productions, and especially in television productions, they often black out labels on things. More skillful prop masters "greek" labels and logos, meaning to make them illegible in some non-destructive and reversible manner, rather than having a black hole where writing should be. I was told that this was to avoid any possible legal issues from using trademarks without permission and so that advertisers wouldn't see competitor's names in programs they sponsored.
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Post by belgiumreporter on Oct 16, 2017 4:46:35 GMT -5
Ever since 1949 the Pentacon works have been producing Praktica slr's. For years it has been the world largest camera manufacturer. Praktica cameras never were high quality, but their attractive pricing made it a very popular "starters" slr. Film transport that feels like grinding coffee, dim viewfinders,unsensitive shutter release, it's all praktica. Still a good line of lenses (though once again not quality build) made up for a lot of the shortcomings of the bodies. Untill 1979 the M42 mount was used this changed with the b series to the praktica bayonet mount wich wasn't compatible with any other make. I once owned a few B series cameras, their mirror slap was so heavy you needed a tight grip on them or they'll flip out of your hands when firing the shutter :-) A 1978 MTL3 with Pentacon Auto 50mm 1:1.8 just like the Zenit a classic in it's own leage wich deserves its place in camera history
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Post by hansz on Oct 21, 2017 13:04:58 GMT -5
Well Francois, I finally got it (hopefully) right, following your workflow... The Icarex 35S with the Ultron 1,8/50 is one of my favourite shooters. This 35S is an early one, fitted with the Icarex bayonet mount and the Ultron has the older diafraghm and distance rings. And it also is a black beauty... If you have any comments about the technical rendering please say so. Actually, I'm no good at all with Photoshop, I only use about 5% what the tool can do, but my youngest daughter helped me:-) IMG_2668-3D by Hans de Groot, on Flickr Hans
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Post by belgiumreporter on Oct 22, 2017 6:41:47 GMT -5
Well Francois, I finally got it (hopefully) right, following your workflow... If you have any comments about the technical rendering please say so. Actually, I'm no good at all with Photoshop, I only use about 5% what the tool can do, but my youngest daughter helped me :-) Hans You did well Hans! But what a coincidence i was just about to show my Zeiss icarex 35 TM.It is one of the few German slr's i've got. I bought it with the voigtländer 135 mm on it, mainly because it fits in my interchangeable viewfinder theme collection. The 1969 Icarex 35TM here on display with a revuenon 55mm 1:1.4
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Post by hansz on Oct 22, 2017 9:15:42 GMT -5
Is that Auto Revuenon lens made by Tomiaka? Then it should give give very good results!
(and more Icarexes will show up here...)
For the record, which production number does your 35 TM have? A Icarex 35 with Tread Mount must be a late entry.
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Post by hansz on Oct 23, 2017 8:20:21 GMT -5
Another Zeiss Ikon Icarex 35S TM (Thread Mount or M42), so a bit newer fhan the BM (Bayonet Mount) cameras. Also the layout of the Ultron 1,8/50 has changed a bit, the diaphragm ring comes with two flanges which give a better handling of it all. The Optical qualities are the same. And, of course, it is a Voigtlander Braunschweig lens and not a Carl Zeiss, but the gnomes at Zeiss Ikon thought it would sell better to label it this way... IMG_2678-3D by Hans de Groot, on Flickr BTW on Flickr (www.flickr.com/photos/hanszeiss) I created an album (Camera3D) consisting of the 3D anaglyphs of parts of my collection. Hans
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Post by hansz on Oct 23, 2017 8:29:55 GMT -5
The entree model, or the cheapest entry into the Zeiss Ikon Icarex world was the Icarex 35 with waistfinder viewer and the cheapo Zeiss Ikon Color Pantar 2,8/50 lens. Labeled Zeiss Ikon because it didn't came from Carl Zeiss (or better Voigtlander) but was bought in from a third party, in this case Rodenstock. IMG_2681-3D by Hans de Groot, on Flickr Hans
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Post by hansz on Oct 23, 2017 8:34:40 GMT -5
Somewhat more sophisticated was the Zeiss Ikon Icarex CS (BM) which sported a Cds pentaprism, of course not coupled to the lens settings - that was too sophisticated, the Japanese cameras were superior in this aspect - but nevertheless a nice feature to have. This Icarex is fitted with the allround Tessar 2,8/50 lens. IMG_2685-3D by Hans de Groot, on Flickr Hans
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Post by hansz on Oct 23, 2017 13:47:09 GMT -5
The Contaflex line was one of the lines of cameras that made money for the Zeiss Ikon company. It started with the Contaflex I, fitted with a front-cell focusing Tessar 2,8/45. IMG_2702-3D by Hans de Groot, on Flickr There was only one option to have another focal distance and that was the fitting of a Teleskop 1,7x lens assembly. It was mounted on a bracket and was bought in from (I believe) Rodenstock. IMG_2700-3D by Hans de Groot, on Flickr Hans
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Post by hansz on Oct 23, 2017 13:55:19 GMT -5
Another camera named Contaflex was the Contaflex 126 for the now forgotten 126 film format. Again, it was not a Zeiss Ikon Stuttgart product but a Voigtländer Braunsweig one. For a 126 format camera it had a rich set of features and accessory products. In fact, too good a product for a film format that was never complete flat and had a lot of troubles when enlarging too much. This C'flex 126 is fitted with a Sonnar 2,8/85mm lens. IMG_2695-3D by Hans de Groot, on Flickr Hans
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Post by belgiumreporter on Oct 23, 2017 13:55:29 GMT -5
Thanks Hans, for a more elaborate view on the Icarex and Zeiss slr range, to answer both your questions: Serial on my Icarex 35 TM : R37571 Yes the Revuenon 55 1:1.4 from what i know is indeed Tomioka made, if it's any good i don't know i never tried it.From what i hear it should be as good or better than the "famous" Takumar 50 1:1.4. i've got a few of those so maybe if i find some time i could put them on a DSLR and see for myselve how they perform... PS. these anaglyphs are fun aren't they ?
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Post by hansz on Oct 23, 2017 14:04:41 GMT -5
Now we come to the real stuff - as the Zeiss Ikon management thought at least... - the Contarex. Too many books are written about this over-engineered product line. Handling of this beast will save you a fitness contract... But the lenses are really among the best in the world; they were hand-picked by the endcontrollers of the Carl Zeiss plant production line. Put one for a digital system camera like a Sony NEX or A and you will be astonished by the quality! This ia an early Contarex I fitted with a Carl Zeiss Planar 2/50 IMG_2709-3D by Hans de Groot, on Flickr Another of the C'rex line was the Super. Below is the Super type 1 - it had a separate push-down button for light metering. It is fitted with a Tessar 2,8/50 and -although a low entry in the lens line - it is still my best Tessar ever. IMG_2713-3D by Hans de Groot, on Flickr Hans
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Post by hansz on Oct 23, 2017 14:12:07 GMT -5
Thanks Hans, for a more elaborate view on the Icarex and Zeiss slr range, to answer both your questions: Serial on my Icarex 35 TM : R37571 Yes the Revuenon 55 1:1.4 from what i know is indeed Tomioka made, if it's any good i don't know i never tried it.From what i hear it should be as good or better than the "famous" Takumar 50 1:1.4. i've got a few of those so maybe if i find some time i could put them on a DSLR and see for myselve how they perform... PS. these anaglyphs are fun aren't they ? Tnx Francois for the Serial number, it will be in the holoceen.nl DB soon. And it is indeed a late entry. And yes, this anaglyph thing is really addictive! Whenever I can I put some cameras for the lens and publish them on flickr and this forum. The pics are shot with a Canon 350D and - oh oh - a Panagor 3/50 macro lens (which IMHO is a very good performer). For macro work at larger distance I have some Schneider Kreuznach bellow heads lying around. But this Panagor is so easy to use:-)
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Post by belgiumreporter on Oct 24, 2017 5:36:17 GMT -5
While we're at it with the non Japanese i thought i would add this piece of weirdness. it's the Swiss 1952 Alpa Alnea model 7 to add to the weirdness i've put on the total non original Panagor 5.6 mirror lens. The Alpa has got a 45° angle viewing pentaprism and a (vertical)rangefinder with frame lines for 50-90 and 135mm focal lenghts. ther's also a return on release mirror(return, but not instant return). Then there's the strange finish of the exposed metal parts,the list goes on... those Swiss really had a very specific view on the 35mm SLR theme. Anyway, i guess you could say it was made like a Swiss watch, even after 65 years everything still works fine!.(something wich can not be said of me even if i'm three years younger )
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Post by hansz on Oct 25, 2017 11:53:49 GMT -5
To show a TLR with a Tessar 2,8/80 lens, the TLR below is a Ikoflex III, prewar 1938, also fitted with a Van Albada viewer and a crank system like the Rolleiflex TLR. Although this camera is seriously tampered with, it still is a formidable shooter. Must say, that due to the lack of coating you have to be cautious with stary light... IMG_2697-3D by Hans de Groot, on Flickr And you can see my setup in the viewer... Hans
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