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Post by sht on Jun 28, 2017 22:55:18 GMT -5
I have a question I could use answered asap ?
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Post by mickeyobe on Jun 29, 2017 2:07:45 GMT -5
I have a question I could use answered asap ? I am going back to bed right now. It is 3:05 am. But ask your question. I promise to look at it as soon as I awaken. I can not promise to know the answer though. If your question is about the Contessa's date being 1934 or 1944 I suggest it has to be 1934 when Germany had not yet felt the full impact of allied bombs. By 1944 they were probably more concerned about survival than making cameras- even if they were able - for amature photographers. Mickey |
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Post by sht on Jun 29, 2017 10:53:54 GMT -5
Sorry my question never loaded last night. No it’s not about the Contessa’s date but interesting none the less. Here is my question again.
I’m buying my niece an all manual film SLR for a class she’s taking at a summer art camp soon. I found a few older manual SLR’s locally online but I’m not very knowledgeable of these older manual film cameras and I was hoping some of you on here could help me with these. The four I’ve found that I’m looking into are as follows.
A Ricoh KR-10 , a Canon AE-1 Program , a Asahi Pentax K 1000 , and a Minolta X-700.
Which one of these do you think would be best for student learning about manual operation and film, which one do you think is the best quality with the best durability, and which one do you think has the most ease of operation ? They all come with the 50 mm lens which is what she needs for her class, some come with a few other lenses and accessories but none of that really matters.
Any help on this matter would be greatly appreciated. Thanks all.
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Post by belgiumreporter on Jun 29, 2017 12:08:35 GMT -5
The pentax K1000 is and always has been the students camera of choise.(togheter with the nikon FM and minolta srt 101)
it's a simple all mechanical but robust camera with wich little can go wrong.( be aware though if the light meter works!) The Ricoh KR 10 has both auto and manual exposure, has K mount (like the pentax) but is battery dependable, these ricoh's are good camera's but nobody seems to like them, that's why they often can be had very cheaply.(10-20€)
The canon AE-1 used to be a good camera, but now as they are getting older many of them develop shutter problems (canon squeel or canon asthma).
The minolta X-700 was a camera from the time minolta was cashing in on its name (personally) i don't like it for a number of reasons.
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Post by sht on Jun 29, 2017 12:46:42 GMT -5
Thank’s BR.
I was hoping you had better things to say about the Canon because it looks to be in the best condition and came with an extra lens and a few accessories. Can the shutter problem you you talk about be repaired ? Simply that is ?
I kind of knew the Pentax was considered a good student camera but this one looks a Little rough, the guy didn’t even bother to clean it and it’s covered in dirt and dust in the photos.
The Ricoh’s also looks to be in real good condition and comes with a number of lenses and some accessories. The Minolta is another one that looks kind of rough.
Anybody else out there have any opinions ?
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Post by belgiumreporter on Jun 29, 2017 13:29:40 GMT -5
The canon problem can be fixed if it hasn't gone beyond a certain point.
The problem starts with the lubrication of the hinges from the mirror mechanism drying up, this slows down the mirror movement and wears out the hinges. In a very bad case of neglect the movement of the mirror mechanism begins to interfere with the shutter movement and things get messed up in a way that repair costs will be beyond the value of the camera.
Now with all this said, it is possible to find A series canons wich dosn't have or hasn't (yet)developed this problem, i've got some 10 A's wich are just fine. If you look for "canon squeak" on the net a lot of info can be found on how to recognise, prevent or repair such problems.Depending on where you live camera repair shops or repair men will be able to fix the camera, but it'll most likely wil come at a price.
Pentax K1000's are mostly overpriced because of their almost mythical status as "the ultimate student camera" the lesser known KM is a whole lot better and was when new much more expensive than the K1000, nowadays if you're lucky they can be found for less money than the K1000 (because most people just don't know the model that well).
If the ricoh is cheap enough and comes with some lenses it might be worth considering its a good thing to get started and the lenses will fit pentax if at a later time you should decide to switch brands.
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Post by mickeyobe on Jun 30, 2017 2:07:57 GMT -5
Sorry my question never loaded last night. No it’s not about the Contessa’s date but interesting none the less. Here is my question again.
I’m buying my niece an all manual film SLR for a class she’s taking at a summer art camp soon. I found a few older manual SLR’s locally online but I’m not very knowledgeable of these older manual film cameras and I was hoping some of you on here could help me with these. The four I’ve found that I’m looking into are as follows.
A Ricoh KR-10 , a Canon AE-1 Program , a Asahi Pentax K 1000 , and a Minolta X-700.
Which one of these do you think would be best for student learning about manual operation and film, which one do you think is the best quality with the best durability, and which one do you think has the most ease of operation ? They all come with the 50 mm lens which is what she needs for her class, some come with a few other lenses and accessories but none of that really matters.
Any help on this matter would be greatly appreciated. Thanks all. Sht, I had a Pentax K1000. It was a good camera but had what I considered a serious flaw. It collected dust like a vacuum cleaner and that meant tedious spotting on my computer and constantly trying to clean the dust out of the camera. It might have been improved but I do not know about that. After less than a year I switched to a pentax K5 which has never attracted even a single mote of dust. My K1000 is a digital camera not a film camera. I have a Pentax Spotmatic, an ME Chrome and an ME Black. They are all excellent reliable, quality Film cameras. Any one of them would be good for a student or even a pro. There is an enormous selection of good used lenses for them at reasonable prices. Mickey |
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Post by yashica1943 on Jun 30, 2017 10:15:13 GMT -5
I have a small collection of manual 35mm SLR from the 60,s 70's and 80's. There are Canon, Contax, Cosina, Konica, Nikon, Pentax (7), Ricoh, Rolleiflex, Yashica. I haven't used all of them,but if I had to choose one for reliability and quality it would be a Nikon. Either a FM3a or a FE. Not the cheapest, but they will hold their resale value. A good selection of lenses also.
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