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Post by Randy on Sept 23, 2007 7:59:52 GMT -5
Just watched a show about British record producer and railway collector Peter Waterman. He is a collector in a large scale. He was former owner of the Flying Scottsman and it said he raised the Ire of British Railfans because he painted the Scottsman Apple Green. He also owns the famous Tilt Train.
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Post by Rachel on Sept 23, 2007 16:22:52 GMT -5
Hey Randy ....... don't know much about this. I don't recall any controversy about painting the Flying Scotsman in Apple Green. As far as I know it's always been that colour since it was privately owned. I wonder what Tilt Train he owns? I suppose it could be the old abandoned APT (Advanced Passenger Train). Virgin Trains run a "tilt train", the Pendolinos, in the UK but they are Italian made I believe. BTW there is only one "t" in Scotsman
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Post by PeterW on Sept 23, 2007 18:51:38 GMT -5
I side with Rachel on the colour of the Flying Scotsman, Locomotive 4472.
AFAIK it was always painted in one of the colours used on LNER (London and North Eastern Railway) locos, a shade of apple green which I believe was known, or nicknamed 'Doncaster Loco Green' as the engine was built back in the 1920s in Doncaster.
I think the LNER used several other colours for locos; Garter Blue, a lovely deep blue; LNER Red, a shade of red almost crimson; and, for the Silver Jubilee loco only, silver and grey.
I'm open to correction as the LNER has never been a strong point for me in rail history. I tend to favour the old companies in my home area, the south and south-east - LBSC (London Brighton and South Coast), LCDR (London Chatham and Dover Railway), SER (South Eastern Railway), LSWR (London and South Western Railway) and a few other smaller companies that were grouped into SR (Southern Railways) in 1923.
The old Ashford Railway Works, about two miles from me and now closed, built more than 1,000 locos for the old SER and later for SR.
PeterW
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Post by Randy on Sept 23, 2007 20:55:01 GMT -5
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Post by John Parry on Sept 24, 2007 6:41:15 GMT -5
Hey Rachel
Nice Avatar. You realise that you are the board's first Marilyn Monroe look-alike?? LOL
Regards - John
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Post by Randy on Sept 24, 2007 7:47:29 GMT -5
Hey Rachel Nice Avatar. You realise that you are the board's first Marilyn Monroe look-alike?? LOL Regards - John She is our Camera Diva! I posted a link above about the APT that was at the Railway Age Museum. The documentary showed Pete Waterman at the controls taking the restored version down a short piece of railroad. |
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Post by olroy2044 on Sept 24, 2007 13:45:32 GMT -5
Hi Randy--fascinating link to the APT. Trains fascinate me almost as much as aircraft. Thanks for the link. Roy
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Post by Rachel on Sept 25, 2007 6:13:38 GMT -5
Thank you guys. I couldn't really understand the Marilyn Monroe comparison  ...... but, of course, it's the wind blown skirt. Here's the original.  Canon EOS 300 with Canon USM 28-80 3.5/5.6 lens on Fuji Centuria 200 film The sign says it all ;D It was a very windy visit with friends to Ickworth House a National Trust property in Suffolk. |
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Post by Rachel on Sept 25, 2007 6:27:37 GMT -5
I side with Rachel on the colour of the Flying Scotsman, Locomotive 4472. ........................................................................ I think the LNER used several other colours for locos; Garter Blue, a lovely deep blue; LNER Red, a shade of red almost crimson; and, for the Silver Jubilee loco only, silver and grey. PeterW Peter, I know a bit about the LNER although my special interest is in the Great Eastern Railway component of that company I haven't come across LNER Red before. Do you known what locomotives were painted that colour? |
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Post by ellacoya1 on Sept 25, 2007 17:35:44 GMT -5
Nice shot of you, Rachel.
I have to admit, that warning sign on the gate makes me want to hop it and go exploring, lol.
Sherri
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Post by PeterW on Sept 25, 2007 18:58:01 GMT -5
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Sorry, Rachel, I don't. I remembered the colours of LNER Doncaster Green, LNER Red and LNER Garter Blue from the catalogue of a company - I think it was called something like Precision Paints - that made "Authentic Colour" paint in small tins for railway and other modellers. Valerie used some of their paints on the model Napoleonic military figures she used to make.
PeterW
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Post by John Parry on Sept 26, 2007 2:34:45 GMT -5
Just had a quick look on Google. Could find only one reference to an engine in LNER Red. But there are hundreds for rolling stock and stations. So maybe they reserved the red for those rather than their engines.
Regards - John
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Post by Randy on Sept 26, 2007 7:52:21 GMT -5
I guess me and Rachel aren't the only "train buffs" here. I like the larger steam locomotives I think they are called the Coronation Class?
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Post by olroy2044 on Sept 26, 2007 12:21:06 GMT -5
As is obvious from my posts, I am a diehard airplane buff. But my affection for machinery encompasses anything that pops, roars, whirs, clicks, shakes the ground, goes fast-------whatever? :-) Roy
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Post by Rachel on Sept 27, 2007 6:14:26 GMT -5
Nice shot of you, Rachel. I have to admit, that warning sign on the gate makes me want to hop it and go exploring, lol. Sherri Thanks Sherri. I know what you mean about the sign  I feel much the same myself. |
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...... but, of course, it's the wind blown skirt. Here's the original. 
I feel much the same myself.