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Post by John Parry on Oct 9, 2008 19:09:30 GMT -5
Sid
You may be right. I've noticed when reading books and articles from North America that some of the authors tend to regard coffee as a narcotic drug. In their defence, I have to say that too much coffee makes me feel as though I'm climbing up the walls, and I would never drink it in the evening. A couple of large cups of strong coffee earlier in the day doesn't do any harm though.
How did we get on to this? Roy's leaky coffee maker!
Regards - John
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Post by GeneW on Oct 9, 2008 20:38:05 GMT -5
Gene We have a whole bunch of coffee shops that have sprung up over the last few years. What they all have in common (including Starbucks) is that the presentation is perfect, the cups/mugs are top quality, they do the full frothed milk thing, and the newly roasted coffee beans smell heavenly. And the quality of the coffee when you finally get to drink it is garbage. Tastes like dishwater. It may well be that we get poor blends of coffee over here, because we aren't supposed to know anything about it. Maybe the tea over there is of the same standard, for the same reason. But I would much rather pay more for a good Jamaican Blue Mountain blend, or a decent Colombian high slopes one, and bang it in the cafetiere, than drink the dross that we get served at Cafe Costa or similar. Just my two pennorth! Goodness! Why didn't you tell me you had Jamaican Blue Mountain? I'll be right over! :-) Gene
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Post by John Parry on Oct 10, 2008 3:03:39 GMT -5
Gene www.thebeanshop.com/shop/detail.asp?prodid=100017This is not cheap coffee though ! 5 times the price of the Colombian on the same site. Incidentally, ignore their comments about the geological stability of Colombia - it's probably one of the most volcanically active regions in the world, with four tectonic plates pushing it upwards (the slopes are getting higher all the time) !! Regards - John
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Post by GeneW on Oct 10, 2008 9:54:14 GMT -5
John,
Thanks for the link. A friend of mine once brewed me some Jamaica Blue Mountain and it was one of the best brews I've ever tasted.
Why do I have to have jet-set tastes on an instant coffee budget? ...
Gene
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Post by olroy2044 on Oct 10, 2008 10:40:54 GMT -5
Dang!! Didn't mean to stir up a------------------------"tempest in a teapot!"
I know, Shut up, Roy and go to your room ;D
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2008 11:22:00 GMT -5
We make strong coffee at home and while traveling I will occassionally get a Starbucks at an airport. But I simply refuse to pay four or five dollars on a regular basis for a designer coffee. You are right, however. The coffee most Americans make in their homes (and in office coffee machines) is AWFUL.
When we were in Italy at a highway stop I watched a truck driver line up five straight shots of expresso -- at about three bucks a pop-- and throw them down one after another--probably enough caffine to keep him wired all the way through the Balkans. Sorry but I just can't see spending money for a itty bitty shot of coffee that is gone in one swallow.
Recently we have been drinking nearly as much green tea as coffee. Green tea won't jump start a person in the morning, however.
One of the best coffees, imo, is the Kona Coffee from Hawaii. It's good stuff.
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Post by renaldo on Oct 10, 2008 12:53:09 GMT -5
Thought those drippy coffee pots were for "drip" coffee...I know...terrible joke...but...
Now with the last 3 toasters we've had, I have the opposite problem. I like my toast dark and on the newer machines it seems no matter where you have the setting, all you get is light toasting. Thus I prefer to toast bread in the oven.
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Post by mickeyobe on Oct 10, 2008 14:21:15 GMT -5
John,
"Mickey - the best toast is made under a gas grill. Then a little butter, and a smear of Bovril...
" I have to admit that Bovril has an unfortunate effect. If I have more than a smear on the toast, or make a strong cup of beef tea, it passes from A to C without going through B. Maybe Luke encountered the same phenomenon, and has become circumspect! " And you want me to spread that stuff on my toast! When I was very, very young my mother got some Bovril because "we were too young to drink coffee." It took us several days to forgive her. My father who was a Londoner called it bulls' blood.
OK. I tried your gas grill suggestion. I don't have a gas grill so I used my gas BBQ. I now have no hair on my right hand and arm. The toast fell into the fire and is a so black I can't get a reading on my light meter to send you a photo. And I have a big blob of marmalade waiting to be smeared somewhere.
Starbuck's is the best thing that has happened to coffee in my lifetime. Especially if one disregards all the elite fancy shmancy stuff and goes for a straight full bodied brew. Second best is my son Paul's Blue something or other double espresso. Mickey's Turkish coffee made with Ethiopian Yergashev ( I am not sure of the spelling) in a Pyrex pot in the microwave is next in order of excellence. Then Balzac's and then Tim Hortons.
Toast is still a problem but I am reasonably sure some enterprising atomic physicist will come up with something.
Mickey
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Post by alexkerhead on Oct 10, 2008 16:37:08 GMT -5
The coffee pot won't drip if you keep the coffee from touching the plastic lid. The spout was designed to prevent drip on a slow pour but a fast pour causes the coffee to touch the lid and the spout pour is interrupted from it's cross-flow design. So, it drips when you pour to fast. Another way to avoid it is to remove the plastic lid, it isn't necessary.
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Post by John Parry on Oct 10, 2008 17:39:03 GMT -5
Mickey
I'm going to be blamed for your carelessness forever I can tell... Leave me alone, I'm trying to buy a car.
Regards - John
ps lol !!
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Post by mickeyobe on Oct 10, 2008 19:23:58 GMT -5
John,
Considering your liking for and adverse reaction to Bovril your car had better have a loo. Or a B that intercepts the flow between A and C.
Alex,
What! Pay for a plastic lid and not use it??? Exactly how many gallons per second is the correct rate of pour?
Mickey
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Post by John Parry on Oct 10, 2008 19:34:02 GMT -5
Mickey
A before C except after B, then ?
Regards - John
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Post by olroy2044 on Oct 11, 2008 10:46:52 GMT -5
;D Lid on, lid off--makes no difference. Pour it slow, it runs down the side of the carafe. Pour it fast, it slops over the sides of the spout. Not just one brand, but all but one that I have owned over the last 40 years. Tried pots from numerous makers, from dirt cheap, to ones costing a week's pay. The only one that didn't do it was a midrange unit from a major manufacturer. We enjoyed that one for about 2 years 'til the heating element quit. So naturally, they discontinued it. In fairness, I must add that my wife and I drink coffee from awakening 'til going back to sleep. The pots never get cold! Old night shift habits die hard! So what do we do? Pour it over the blasted sink! O well, whaddya gonna do? This horse is good and dead now, so mebbe it's time to stop beatin' it. ;D Roy
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Post by John Parry on Oct 11, 2008 11:00:27 GMT -5
Roy, fair enough!
One last observation though... When I worked in the Middle East there was plenty of American coffee in the shops (I mean American brands of coffee). I found the nicest was also the cheapest. Maxwell House, made at double the recommended strength. We can't get it over here, except as instant, and it's nothing like the vacuum packed kind we got out there.
Regards - John
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Post by mickeyobe on Oct 11, 2008 14:45:58 GMT -5
"This horse is good and dead now, so mebbe it's time to stop beatin' it. ;D"
One last thrashing, please.
Get yourself a big beer mug or stein or whatever those things are called that you beer drinkers use and enjoy. Make your coffee in it and drink your coffee from it. No drips. No splashes. No filters. No mop ups. No standing over the sink. and above all only one thing to wash up.
Drink your coffee and savour it. Just don't forget to stop short of the grounds.
Mickey
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