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Post by John Parry on Nov 20, 2009 10:50:56 GMT -5
... other people get hot dry summers. We get the whole average rainfall for the month of November (and November is a pretty wet month), in a day. Two days running. And more to come. These houses have never been flooded in living memory - I'm not going to get home this weekend!    Regards - John |
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Post by Randy on Nov 20, 2009 12:21:28 GMT -5
John, sorry to see this. We have gotten more rain than usual here in Ohio also. Lake Erie is pretty high right now, and I don't think our wooden porch has been dry for more than a week all year.
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Post by jack on Nov 20, 2009 12:22:22 GMT -5
John, I hope you and all are English and Irish members are safe and dry. In the US we are more accustom to these events. Where I live in New York we have Floods once or twice a year yet we can not get the people effected by them to move out of harms way.
Jack
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Post by mickeyobe on Nov 20, 2009 15:14:04 GMT -5
John,
Wherever you are stay safe.
The waters subsided for Noah and I am sure they will for you too.
Mickey
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Post by nikonbob on Nov 20, 2009 15:58:10 GMT -5
John
What a mess, sorry to see that happening. It has been warmer than usual here but no flooding. Stay safe and dry.
Bob
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Post by photax on Nov 20, 2009 16:40:59 GMT -5
John,
It makes me sad to see such pictures, but i think it`s too late to stop the global warming. A few years ago, we had the "flood of the century" over here, with damage cost billions. My sisters house was also ruined.
Today we had 18 degree celsius ( 64.5 fahrenheit ) ! I don`t know where this will end...
MIK
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Post by mickeyobe on Nov 20, 2009 18:45:41 GMT -5
John,
I didn't realize how very serious the flooding was until I saw this evening's news.
Do be careful.
I wish you and your family well.
Mickey
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Post by mickeyobe on Nov 20, 2009 18:49:44 GMT -5
John, It makes me sad to see such pictures, but i think it`s too late to stop the global warming. A few years ago, we had the "flood of the century" over here, with damage cost billions. My sisters house was also ruined. Today we had 18 degree celsius ( 64.5 fahrenheit ) ! I don`t know where this will end... MIK MIK, It will end like all cycles. Right back where it started. And there is not a damned thing that anyone can do about it except old man Sol. Mickey |
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Post by PeterW on Nov 20, 2009 22:12:51 GMT -5
John,
Take care of yourself, old lad. I had no idea you were working in Cumbria - I take it the Drigg Road in one of your pictures is the Drigg in Cumbria a little way to the west of Holmrook and Gubbergill?
PeterW
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Post by olroy2044 on Nov 20, 2009 23:34:23 GMT -5
John, our thoughts and well-wishes are with you. Stay safe. Roy
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Post by John Parry on Nov 21, 2009 0:26:07 GMT -5
Thanks for the good wishes everyone. I'm fine here - its the rivers that are the problem.
Peter - yes, although while Gubbergill appears on the maps, nobody seems to know where it is... The pictures were taken in Holmrook when I set off home for the weekend, and there's no way out. I work just to the north of there...!
The levels are still rising as the water has nowhere to go. Some observers reckoned there was 14 inches of rain on some of the fells in a single day, and that was on top of a week's steady rain beforehand. I've been tracking the rainfall radar, and the next front is heading in now, but it looks as though it may go to the north of here. Carlisle and Scotland next?
Mickey - The sun's output is the same as it's been for the last 100 years, but there's a lot more energy in the atmosphere. Got to be coming from somewhere! You're right in one respect, 15 years ago we had hosepipe bans and the reservoirs were empty. A program I watched reckoned the climate has become unstable and is oscillating between extremes. It predicted that the Gulf Stream would become diverted up the Labrador coast into the Polar Sea and would melt the icecap. Sheesh! When I was a lad, all we had to worry about was a nuclear holocaust...
Regards - John
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Post by PeterW on Nov 21, 2009 10:19:45 GMT -5
John,
You're quite right, I found Holmrook and Gubbergill when I was looking for Drigg on a map. What you said made me curious about Gubbergill so for want of something better to do I did a spot more searching.
Apparently, Gubbergill is quite ancient. There was a Roman bath house there, or quite near there. In the early 19th century Gubbergill was - and for all I know still is - part of the parish of Santon and Irton. No mention of Holmrook.
From a satellite picture Gubbergill seems to consist now of two farms, or ex-farms, in the back of beyond off the A595. Don't blink or you'll miss it.
From info dated 2007 one of the farms is now a crafts place making tourist mementos of the Lake District. The other belongs to a dog breeder who breeds sheep dogs.
Peter W
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Post by John Parry on Nov 21, 2009 21:54:04 GMT -5
Peter
Everywhere in the Lake District is a crafts place making tourist mementos of the Lake District and breeding sheep dogs!
Not surprised about the Roman connection. Ravenglass harbour just to the south had a full blown Roman fort and you can still see the remains of the bath house there, complete with hypercaust. There was a road up to the Roman fort at Hardknott and on to Ambleside (Hardknott Pass - the steepest and windiest road in England, and Wrynose Pass). It turns off the A595 at 'Gubbergill' where it's known as the Irton Levels - reputed to be the only straight bit of road in Cumbria!
Holmrook used to be in the parish of Drigg, but declared UDI sometime in the 1800's when there was a local 'border dispute'. It's certainly unusual for a Cumbrian village in that it doesn't have a church of any denomination.
Its raining again!
Regards - John
ps To non-British members, the hills and mountains of the Lake District are known locally as fells, or tops. Tops is English, as in Anglo-Saxon, and means what it says. Fell, as in Scafell and Snaefell is of Scandinavian origin, and dates back to the Danish (or Viking) population who settled the coasts and valleys of Cumbria back in the Dark Ages. They co-existed with the local Celtic population (who tended to live on the uplands or fells), until the two populations merged. The word Cumbria means Welshland (the Welsh name for Wales is Cumraeg). Quite a lot of the people of Cumbria don't like the name Cumbria. It's all pretty complicated. The English traditionally ignore all that stuff!
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Post by mickeyobe on Nov 22, 2009 0:56:34 GMT -5
John,
"Mickey - The sun's output is the same as it's been for the last 100 years, but there's a lot more energy in the atmosphere. Got to be coming from somewhere!"
Mystery solved.
I can assure you it's coming from me.
When I was 17 I had all the energy I needed to do whatever I wanted.
Somehow during the intervening 60 years most of it has dissipated.
Thanks to your insightful comment I now realize that it has gone into the atmosphere and I, not Al Gore's Hummer or private jet or enormous mansion, am responsible for global warming.
But if you are truly sick of "global warming" come to Toronto in February. You will quickly develop a yearning for it.
Another subject.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge of the history and terminology of the Lake District. British history is fascinating and complex. The English place names are, themselves, worthy of several massive tomes.
I am an avid fan of the TV (Tely) series "Time Machine" and would never allow myself to miss an episode.
I do wish, however, that they could spend more than three days on each dig.
I also wish they would show what the sites look like if and when they are restored after the digs.
When I am reincarnated I am going to come back as an archaeologist and get a job with that crew. Perhaps they would hire me as an archaeological photographer. Could anything be better?
Mickey
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Post by PeterW on Nov 22, 2009 19:42:23 GMT -5
Mickey,
I'm not sure what it's called in Canada but are you thinking of the series of three-day digs presented by Tony Robinson? If so it's called Time Team on UK TV. I'm quite a fan myself.
PeterW
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