|
Post by Randy on Jan 24, 2006 0:18:40 GMT -5
|
|
PeterW
Lifetime Member
Member has Passed
Posts: 3,804
|
Post by PeterW on Jan 24, 2006 8:58:19 GMT -5
Those are some heavy old machines, Randy, the sort of thing you'd expect to find in locomotive and shipbuilding industry. It's nice that the company has them on display instead of cutting them up for scrap.
I've never seen an Aires Viscount in the metal, but it looks a very chunky and competent rangefinder. It certainly produced the goods. Your guesstimated exposures seem about right, too.
You know, I sometimes think we pay a lot of money these days for the last of the sophisticated hi-tech film cameras and wonder if we don't get rather dazzled by the marvellous things they can do almost by themselves, and the high ratings the lenses got in things like lines per millimetre and MTF functions. They're very nice to own and to use, and I'd love to have some of them, but do they produce results, say, 20 times better than classic cameras we can pick up in perfect condition for a twentieth of the price?
The most important parts of a camera aren't the lens or the metering system, they're still the shutter release button and the person who presses it.
Peter
|
|
|
Post by John Parry on Jan 24, 2006 14:28:13 GMT -5
Hi Randy,
Ashamed to say I'd never even heard of Ayres' cameras, but it certainly produced good results. As Peter says, it's nice that the old machines have been coated and placed on display, instead of going for scrap.
The second, third and fourth would seem to be some sort of band saw rather than a press, but you certainly wouldn't want to get your hand of the piston on the fifth!
Impressive colouration on the first - thought at first it was from the set of 'High Plains Drifter'! Otherwise, massive DOF on all but the last, which of course was how it should be. Nice display all round.
Regards - John
|
|
PeterW
Lifetime Member
Member has Passed
Posts: 3,804
|
Post by PeterW on Jan 24, 2006 18:16:58 GMT -5
Hi John,
At first I too thought that shots two, three and four were of some sort of bandsaw, but then I can't see anywhere for the band to run, and surely a bandsaw wouldn't need such a huge G-frame. I'm wondering if it's some sort of hole punch for really heavy plate, say half and inch or so thick?
The next shot is obviously a press tool but I can't fathom out the two big grey ones. The one in the background looks as if it might be another press tool of some sort, but the nearer one's got me beat. With that massively heavy throat and the big semi-covered flywheel, or maybe it's a brake wheel, it certainly did something pretty drastic to heavy sheet plate. Imagine the noise when that lot were working!
Anyone been in really heavy engineering and can give a more positive ID?
Peter
|
|
|
Post by Randy on Jan 24, 2006 19:28:58 GMT -5
These presses were made before the introduction of hydraulic presses. They performed their duty by repettedly anviling and the hits could be deafening! If you look at the one machine, you can see the foot pedal that the operator would hold down until the steady ramming of the hammer performed it's duty. I've been in close proximity of these sorts of Punch Presses and my ears rang for days. Thanks for the KUDOS on my pictures guys!
|
|
|
Post by John Parry on Jan 25, 2006 18:34:29 GMT -5
Hi Peter,
Showed these to the resident mechanical member of my engineering team. Took one look at the first one and said, "Band saw". The next one apparently is a 'fly press' The left hand one in the next pic, he'd 'never seen anything like', but the right hand one he'd seen those shafts on something, but couldn't remember what!
Randy, really enjoyed these - not just snaps but conversation pieces!
Regards - John
|
|
|
Post by Randy on Jan 26, 2006 20:14:26 GMT -5
I assure you John, there is no band saw in these pictures. I enjoyed sharing these shots. I feel sad when I think of these machines sitting dormant though, because it harks of bad things for our country.
|
|
|
Post by Rachel on Jan 27, 2006 9:34:56 GMT -5
I assure you John, there is no band saw in these pictures. I enjoyed sharing these shots. I feel sad when I think of these machines sitting dormant though, because it harks of bad things for our country. Iknow what you mean Randy. I get the feeling that with the increasingly rapid changes in technology/society that sooner or later it will all come tumbling down as it spins out of control On that happy note .......... it's a good looking camera. Having bid unsuccessfuly on eBay for similar cameras the prices seem quite high.
|
|
|
Post by Randy on Jan 30, 2006 7:15:04 GMT -5
Rachel, the Aires Viscount was one of those happy mistakes on Ebay. The name was miss-spelled and I was the only one to view or bid on it. I got it for less than $10.00 plus shipping.
|
|
|
Post by Rachel on Jan 30, 2006 10:01:11 GMT -5
I am really envious Randy I'm really surprised the kind of prices that these kind of cameras are making on eBay. BTW I have just won an Agimatic camera www.chromeagecamera.com/Agimatic.htm which dates from 1957.
|
|
PeterW
Lifetime Member
Member has Passed
Posts: 3,804
|
Post by PeterW on Jan 30, 2006 11:20:51 GMT -5
That looks interesting, Rachel.
The combined wind on and shutter release sounds as if it could be a fast camera for sequential shots. Shades of the old Zeiss Ikon Tenax, only that had two levers. AGI produced some nice cameras, as well as a couple of cheap ones.
With a four-element lens, presumably of Tessar layout, it ought to give good pictures.
Peter
|
|
|
Post by Rachel on Jan 31, 2006 7:03:52 GMT -5
That looks interesting, Rachel. The combined wind on and shutter release sounds as if it could be a fast camera for sequential shots. Shades of the old Zeiss Ikon Tenax, only that had two levers. AGI produced some nice cameras, as well as a couple of cheap ones. With a four-element lens, presumably of Tessar layout, it ought to give good pictures. Peter The Agimatic arrived today. It is a little grubby but will clean up OK I think. All parts seem to be working except I can't see a rangefinder image but I can live with that. Now to put a film through it.
|
|
|
Post by Randy on Apr 23, 2006 9:45:34 GMT -5
Just wondering if Rachel did anything with her Agimatic yet. I'd have to say that my Aires Viscount is the best Rangefinder Camera in my collection.
|
|
|
Post by Randy on Feb 21, 2009 1:06:42 GMT -5
Well, it's been 3 years since I made this post about my camera. I've been back to this location several times since, and now the rust has begun to take it's toll. I still think these are some of the best photos I've ever taken with my limited experience, and I come back to these photos now and then for a reunion. By the way, I still have the camera.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2009 14:07:20 GMT -5
I remember the Aries camera was one I wished I could afford when I was a youngster--mainly because they looked neat. Never had one, however.
|
|