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Post by doubs43 on Feb 13, 2007 21:30:36 GMT -5
Walker, I have never found shutter lag to be a problem with my SLR's. It was extremely annoying with non SLR digitals. So bad that I found I was wasting and losing many shots so I switched to Digital SLR which like film SLR's Has no appreciable lag. You are right about missing a blinking eye when using an SLR. But I would never give up the use of my 24-70mm or 70-210mm zooms or my 600mm mirror or my bellows or lens reversing ring for the blink of an eye. I would much rather take a couple of extra pictures. Yes. For action shots I almost always prefocus. but rather than rely on a tiny superimposed or split image to tell me when to shoot I merely press the button when the subject reaches the prefocussed distance. Quietness and size. Rangefinders win hands down. I couldn't possibly slip my T90 into my pocket. It is usually around my neck ready for whatever. And it certainly makes a lot of noise, like a dentist's drill and a door lock operating together. But it is a gratifying sound. Definitely not to be used in the middle of a dramatic aria though. Should I mention Parallax? I think both of us are right. To each his own. Mickey Mickey, I wasn't picking on you...... really!  I was simply pointing out the strong points of RF cameras and a weak point of the SLR. Both have distinct advantages and disadvantages. In practice, I use both types of camera AND TLR's too. When I find myself getting bored with one type of camera, I pick up a different one. It helps me keep my enthusiasm level up so I don't take a leave of absence from cameras. I fully agree with your comment "To each his own." Beautiful photographs are created in one's eye with the camera the recording instrument. The type of camera used is really not important. Walker |
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Post by kiev4a on Feb 13, 2007 23:00:18 GMT -5
Peter:
Although shooters of FSU rangefinders tend to rave about the Kiev and tend to agree that the FEDs and Zorkis are better. A lot of the Kievs made after the 1960s had problems when they left the factory and it requires a lot more skill to fix a Kiev because they are more complicated. I've never been a real fan of the "Contax Grip" needed to operate that type of camera. Even though it requires special preparation for loading my favorites remain the FED and Zorki 1s--true Leica II copies. The FED 2 is similar buy somewhat larger and heavier, as is the Zorki 4. The best of all worlds to me is a FED or Zorki 1 with wither the Jupiter 8 or the Jupiter 12 WA attached. They are quiet, easy to carry and can hold there own with many modern cameras when it come to picture quality. My only problem with those cameras (and a lot of other RFs) is they have metal rings around the rangerfiner and/or viewfinder windows. I wear glasses with plastic lenses and ruined one pair because of scratches caused by the rings. That's probably why I prefer the Jupiter 12 lens with an auxiliary finder mounted on the accessory shoe--a finder with a plastic rather than metal rim.
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Post by mickeyobe on Feb 14, 2007 0:33:09 GMT -5
Walker,
I never felt picked on. We were engaged in a good healthy discussion as so often takes place in this site. The type of interaction from which all parties may learn and possibly enjoy each other's arguments and points of view about topics of mutual interest.
If I came on too strongly I apologize. I do tend to get carried away and am often too verbose.
Although I shoot all kinds of cameras, as you may have guessed, I am a confirmed SLR fan. And you, undoubtedly, are hooked on rangefinders. You say potayto and I say potahto but in the end it is still a spud.
Now I am going to gaze out the window as we, at last, get hammered with a real snow storm that most of us here thought would never come this winter.
G'nite,
Mickey
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Post by doubs43 on Feb 14, 2007 2:45:19 GMT -5
Mickey, this should make you feel right at home! It's on 35mm but not from a RF or an SLR.  Walker |
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Post by GeneW on Feb 14, 2007 10:30:28 GMT -5
Walker, that snow and ice shot is a beauty! What camera? I'm a big RF fan, for certain kinds of photography. I have a small collection of them and enjoy using them. Some of mine are very small and lightweight which makes them good carry-every cams. Others have superb lenses and I love those big bright RF viewing screens. I always prefer RF to SLR when I'm shooting in the city. But I also like shooting with SLR cams, especially for the kind of shooting I do around the local harbour where I'm frequently using telephoto lenses. TLR's? A world of their own. But that's way off topic Gene |
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Post by mickeyobe on Feb 14, 2007 11:45:07 GMT -5
Walker,
Beautiful! That's what winter is all about.
Mickey
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Post by doubs43 on Feb 14, 2007 12:58:28 GMT -5
Walker, that snow and ice shot is a beauty! What camera? I'm a big RF fan, for certain kinds of photography. I have a small collection of them and enjoy using them. Some of mine are very small and lightweight which makes them good carry-every cams. Others have superb lenses and I love those big bright RF viewing screens. I always prefer RF to SLR when I'm shooting in the city. But I also like shooting with SLR cams, especially for the kind of shooting I do around the local harbour where I'm frequently using telephoto lenses. TLR's? A world of their own. But that's way off topic Gene Gene, thank you. High praise, indeed, from someone who routinely takes gorgeous shots. My father took that in 1964 with his Leica Model A and it's scale focus uncoated Elmar lens. I think he caught the angle of the light just right to highlight the texture of the snow. That's not always easy to do. The film was Plus-X rated at 160 and developed in straight D-76. The large building in the background is the mill he owned. It was built in 1812 and is a story in itself. I took all of my Christmas pictures with a pair of Olympus OM cameras..... a 1n and a 2. I'm slowly putting together a Sears TLS model (Ricoh) SLR set to throw in the car. I need to replace the body seals and finding the time is holding me back. In truth, too many cameras and not enough hands, eyes, time etc. Walker |
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Post by doubs43 on Feb 14, 2007 13:01:41 GMT -5
Walker, Beautiful! That's what winter is all about. Mickey I haven't actually seen snow like that in many years. We just don't get snow here in middle GA and it's been over 10 years since the last snow covered the ground. That picture was taken in Maryland where I grew up and saw snows like that often. Walker |
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I was simply pointing out the strong points of RF cameras and a weak point of the SLR. Both have distinct advantages and disadvantages.
