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Post by Stephen on Jul 6, 2013 12:00:35 GMT -5
 Advert with the Heag models made, the anastigmat lens, the Doppel was the base model of the 9x12, the 6x9 had a simpler Aplanet. Stephen. |
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Post by Stephen on Jul 9, 2013 14:19:02 GMT -5
Whilst testing the Agfa Standard camera, I had enough film left for the Ernemann quarterplate, 9x12, to do one shot, with a yellow filter, and the camera set to 25th at f22 (Ilford FP), processed in Neofin. The neg was re-shot with the Micro 4/3 PM-1, and run through the Gimp to crop etc. The sharpness is very good, beyond the digital camera limit, and could benefit from a large print or a scan on a flat bed. Not bad for about 95 year old camera. 
Garden Entrance at Foords Almshouse in Borstal, Rochester, Kent.
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Post by winnipegcameraguy on Jul 23, 2013 11:56:50 GMT -5
Good day,
I am new here and I just acquired one of these remarkable cameras myself. It is a Heag 0 A model. I have two questions and I am wondering if you guys can help. First off different sources say it used 9x12 cm plates and film others say it uses 6.5x9cm. Does anyone know which is correct?
Second question is that I cannot figure out how to load film into it. All the parts seem to be present except I do not see a film holder and when the ground glass back is installed everything is flush and it does not appear to have room for a film holder. Am I missing something? either a part or a detail.
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Post by Peltigera on Jul 23, 2013 12:04:12 GMT -5
Second question: You do not load film with the focusing screen present. The film emulsion has to occupy the same position as the ground surface of the focusing screen. Take the focusing screen out and put the film holder in its place.
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Post by winnipegcameraguy on Jul 23, 2013 12:09:52 GMT -5
So if I understand correctly you use the ground glass to focus and compose first. Then take it off and put in the film folder when you are ready to shoot?
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Post by Stephen on Jul 23, 2013 13:04:58 GMT -5
The Ernemann camera is a 12x9 cm and has a glass focus screen of those dimensions, but it can take cut films in the holders of 9x12, or 6x9 in special slim holders.
It can also do 6x9, 6x6, of 6x4.5 if you use a Plaubel Rada 120 roll film back or a Rollux 120 roll film converter, which fits the same slot as the glass screen, or the cut film holders. The glass screen can be marked in pencil to show the other formats if you want, some came with etched screens for the roll film sizes.
Other film backs existed which used wider roll film that are no longer made.
Other thicker slides took film packs, or glass plates.
With the Rada roll film back in place you only get the smaller negs, but it will work very well indeed, see the test shots.
Also paper negs and Ilford direct Positive paper can be used in the cut film holders, for processing at home, which is exceedingly simple, and printed on an inkjet after scanning.
Also a bit esoteric these days, you can fit a Polaroid back to the Ernemann, and they are still made.
Few modern camera can be as flexible as this type!
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Post by Stephen on Jul 23, 2013 13:07:41 GMT -5
So if I understand correctly you use the ground glass to focus and compose first. Then take it off and put in the film folder when you are ready to shoot? Absolutely, and you can get a tripod, and a over all black cloth to aid viewing the screen, 1920's clothes, and take photographs the proper way!!!..and get far better than digital results... Stephen. |
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Post by winnipegcameraguy on Jul 23, 2013 13:18:40 GMT -5
Mine does not have the original film holder. Is there anything special about the Heag's film holder or will I be okay with any 9x12 cm holder. I see some Letz/Leica ones on Ebay for a decent price.
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Post by Stephen on Jul 23, 2013 13:51:26 GMT -5
Most 9x12 holders are the same, if they are from the same period, there was a standard of sorts by the 1920's, 2mm thickness between the inner rail of the slot and the glass screen should be the same as the cut film holders.
To check, as long as both the glass screen and cut holder fit the slots, lay them side by side, face up and run a ruler over them, the measurements should agree between the glass screen, and the film holder with the slide out, and a scrap of film or paper in the holder, taken to the front of the slide in edge that goes in the slot.
It is not really critical if the max aperture is not used, smaller apertures would cover any problems.I suspect that you would have no problems, if it is 12x9 then it will fit. Rietzschel, Zeiss, Ernemann, and Agfa certainly fit.
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Post by winnipegcameraguy on Jul 23, 2013 13:54:55 GMT -5
Thank you very much for the info Stephen.
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Post by Stephen on Jul 23, 2013 16:02:19 GMT -5
That's quite all right, it happens I had bought an Ernemann as per this posting, soI had to find a way to use it, it came with three 12x9 holders by Ernemann, thankfully! The roll film Rada adaptor is in a home made converter made from plastic modelling sheet to centre it in the bigger frame.
The Erneman Heag cameras came in both 9x6 and 12x9 size, there are Rada adaptors in 9x12, but it may be more useful to get the 9x6 fit, same 120 roll film neg size, and run up an adaptor for the 9x12, as then if you get a 9x6 the Rada would fit both, as the 9x12 version has the adaptor riveted on.
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Post by SidW on Jul 23, 2013 17:11:58 GMT -5
What a beautiful camera. Has anyone else also realised that we've come full circle after about 100 years, and are once again looking at the backs of cameras? But no black cloths over heads yet, although they'd be useful.
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Post by Stephen on Jul 23, 2013 17:50:46 GMT -5
Both the Ernemann 12x9, and the Agfa standard 6x9 knock spots off digital, I dare say a Hassleblad with the full 2.5 inch Kodak sensors would beat it, but I have not got a spare Lottery win to pay for one! I am beginning to find the limits of micro 4/3rds and planning for a full 35mm frame digital though. Stephen. |
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Post by Stephen on Jul 23, 2013 18:02:09 GMT -5
And by the way, a black cloth would be the only way to see an LCD or or type digital screen on the back of modern cameras in bright sunlight. It would be a little odd to get ready for a shot and whip out a head covering black cloth to cover everything! In the UK the police might investigate!
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Post by hansz on Jul 24, 2013 2:42:22 GMT -5
That's why my wife insists on an optical viewfinder. Having an 'old' Canon Ixus the upgrade is a very expensive one these days. Only some Canon, Fuji, and Leica left.
Planning for 35mm sensor we all do?? Here, in the NL, even a second hand EOS5D Mark I will set you back for about € 500.
I can't tell the same wife to invest this kind of money:-( She will insist on the Leica:-)
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