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Post by olddocfox on Sept 23, 2015 18:41:10 GMT -5
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Post by Rachel on Sept 24, 2015 3:57:32 GMT -5
Need permission to view olddocfox .,....
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Post by Stephen on Sept 24, 2015 5:29:15 GMT -5
Same here, Goggle Drive+ is not really an open system.... you have to use the right account. Previously I could open the pages you kindly publish, but now it is requiring a permission process. Might just be my settings, A/C details, or cookies, but I am registered with Goggle Drive, but even logging out as advised and trying the main A/C log in, it still requires permission. Maybe Goggle have changed the conditions. Stephen.
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Post by Stephen on Sept 24, 2015 8:15:26 GMT -5
Both computers are now requesting permission to view the posting, changing settings makes no difference. Stephen.
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Post by olddocfox on Sept 24, 2015 13:16:11 GMT -5
I have reinstalled the link to my PDF and tested it from an unrelated computer. It appears to work properly.
My apologies for the difficulty, but I really suspect the problem may be caused at the receiving end. I use Google Drive to post PDFs to six other photography forums and and equal number of handgun forums. This is the only place where a problem has been noted. Could there be some problem with the way CAMERA COLLECTOR handles links to other sites?
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Post by Stephen on Sept 24, 2015 14:54:56 GMT -5
It's back working now, as before, no issues, many thanks,
On the Leica, my thought was the top had been replaced. But do not totally trust Leica numbers, a lot have had to be reconstructed due to losses in the war of records. Also work done during the war and just afterwards was very piecemeal, they assembled what was to hand. Leica's assembly system was unusual, they measured every component and then the assembler picked matching tolerances, a nightmare for repairs later on. But then they were accurate engineers anyway.
Also in the immediate post war period some Leica agents who held spares assembled cameras themselves to try to get around supply problems. They would buy in older cameras and re-assemble with new spares, usually un-numbered, then add suitable numbers.
Also another confusing facto was from the UK, where although efforts were made to make copies like the Reid, during the war piles of older cameras were also rebuilt. I knew the Army Officer who requisitioned the cameras, and the Officer who organised the re-building program. He stated some work was done by arrangement with Leica, even before the end of the war, via Swedish connections. Again this produced out of sequenced numbering.
Stephen
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Post by paulhofseth on Sept 25, 2015 7:45:09 GMT -5
Maybe this site should earn its keep by publishing an online journal; this story deserves a wider public.
As for changes to older cameras, Leitz not only did ex-post model changes, they also made single additions. I once had a self-timer added at the Hauser Torwerk. Cosmetically, like that of the g-series, but not placed like it. When I came to pick it up they explained that they had cleaned and lubricated it and replaced all screws that had been loosened, since used screws did not have the same characteristics as unstressed new ones.
So, if yours is a Leitz mash-up, it has had a renewal treatment at one stage.
I vaguely remember a small seal covering the top screw fastening the mount with a letter stamped by the last workshop that opened the camera, but on looking at my current Leica, a much maltreated M6, there is no sign of it.
p.
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Post by voncabbage on Nov 7, 2015 22:57:55 GMT -5
i wrote to james lager, pretty much THE guy when it comes to leicas. it is easier for me to just forward what he said. in summary, you have to remove the top plate. there is a second serial number inside. that is the one you need to see (IF you want the mystery solved). if you just want to use the camera to shoot, have a nice time.
here is what he wrote: Greetings Von, The first thing to do is to open the camera to see what the internal number is. I suspect an error during assembly and record keeping. Nothing is impossible.If we cannot see the internal number we can go no further. Jim.
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Post by yashica1943 on Mar 14, 2016 8:29:37 GMT -5
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