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Post by camfiend on Dec 8, 2015 19:27:30 GMT -5
Have just taken delivery of my 'new' Kodak Stereo camera from the US Finally got the winning bid from Ebay at a not unreasonable $74AU of course the postage was a killer but thats the way it is when you live in Australia had to show someone, so here it is. All appears to be clean and working
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Post by philbirch on Dec 9, 2015 11:56:44 GMT -5
Lovely. Is that a spirit level on the front?
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Post by camfiend on Dec 9, 2015 18:11:03 GMT -5
Lovely. Is that a spirit level on the front? yes it is.. dont really see the necessity for it.. maybe I'll want to erect another shed then it will come in handy It does appear in the viewfinder so guess it may be of some assistance when taking pic... but I doubt it
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Post by Stephen on Dec 9, 2015 19:04:21 GMT -5
The level is absolutely vital to stereoscopes, any lean will make the image fail to overlap correctly, the eyes can take up a bit of miss alignment, but not more than a degree or so. This is why the dual lens worked so well, when used correctly and dead level. It does not matter if it is tilted up or down, but anything out of level will spoil the shot in the viewer. It does not affect polarvision so much projected on a silver screen, as better projectors had adjustable lenses to get everything aligned. Kodak were unique, I think, in building in a level, other makers offered it as an extra, or advised you to use a carefully set up tripod. 3D cameras and the use of them is becoming a bit of a lost craft these days, they yield fantastic shots.
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Post by camfiend on Dec 9, 2015 20:26:03 GMT -5
I figured images would need to be fairly level but didnt think it would be all that critical since images depend on slight variation I would imagine.. dont have any clue really.. I thought they would need to be viewed through a stereoscope type viewer (which I don't have) and thought maybe slight corrections were made there... I learn more each day, even at my age
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Post by hansz on Dec 10, 2015 8:19:31 GMT -5
Years ago I used 2xLubitel 6x6cm on a common rail system with a dual shutter cable to have about the same exposure start. Made 6x6 positives and viewed them easily using the infinity approach, no cross-eye view here, too much headaches...
You can also use some viewers from Zeiss Topo for example to view them easily. For larger photographs I use a serious Zeiss Topo setup... you can get them still on the Bay. By using these methods one is not so sensitive to perfect alignment - although it helps avoiding headache:-)
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Post by Stephen on Dec 10, 2015 14:01:55 GMT -5
As the diagram shows, any off level results in one image being not only the base distance apart, but above or below the level line, giving the eyes more to do to get the images to line up. It also puts verticals out a touch. This may seem very minor, but it causes headaches and eye-strain in the viewing! Tipping the head to match the out of level line will make it viewable, but awkward with fixed lens viewers, hence headaches. By the way, the camera is 100% usable, get print pairs or print the negs from a scanner via the computer and put in a simple frame with 2x magnifying glasses or close-up lens viewing the prints, in colour the results are very good. With a little more skill, get two identical simple single eye slide viewers and saw them up to make a pair, some smaller ones will work straight away. Just mount on a board as a pair. Use slide film of course. Occasionally on Ebay they sell WW2 aerial reconnaissance viewers, they are a pair of quality lenses on legs to look downwards at the stereo pair on the table, very useful as it is focussed for you,by the legs, and flexible in what can be viewed, even allowing old Victorian cards to be viewed. You can take polarvision shots with the Kodak, two polarized filters are used and then again used to project on to a silver screen. It is a bit a job to set up the projectors though to get the best results. The silver screen is needed as the filters waste so much light, but the results are truly stunning. Stephen.
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Post by Stephen on Dec 10, 2015 14:05:55 GMT -5
Years ago I used 2xLubitel 6x6cm on a common rail system with a dual shutter cable to have about the same exposure start. Made 6x6 positives and viewed them easily using the infinity approach, no cross-eye view here, too much headaches... Hans I seem to remember the Lubitel was made in a stereo version by the Russians at one point, from the Factory, but hand made versions. Stephen
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Post by Stephen on Dec 10, 2015 14:13:52 GMT -5
The Russians made a special version, the Sputnik, official factory production, the joined together ones were much later, presumably to use up old mouldings etc. Stephen.
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Post by camfiend on Dec 10, 2015 22:36:21 GMT -5
I've had this "Coronet" binocular camera for some time but it has issues.. one of my few non-working camera It has the ability to take two images at the same time or you can blank off one lens and take just a regular photo Built in 1954 and using 127 film where the Kodak will use 35mm... A home built viewer could be on the cards if I'm still capable
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Post by hansz on Dec 12, 2015 6:38:52 GMT -5
Her in NL, you pay premium prices for Sputniks - main reason for me to do it my way... Hans
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Post by rono on Dec 13, 2015 14:54:51 GMT -5
I shoot with a Stereo Realist and a TDC Colorist on a fairly regular basis. The images are fascinating, wish stereo would catch on again.
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Post by camfiend on Dec 13, 2015 19:29:12 GMT -5
Hi Rono would be interested in seeing the results of some of your stereo pics Do you shoot slide film and view with a special viewer or can they be printed to paper or on computer... have never been able to try anything of this type myself but still have memories of an old 'viewmaster' 3D viewer I had as a child and the images on that were fabulous
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Post by rono on Dec 17, 2015 5:34:11 GMT -5
Yes do use slide film. They do use a viewer to see in stereo. They are like the view master's but much larger image and one view at a time. Some people scan them and convert them to be seen on a computer with red/blue glasses. To much work and never look as good. I have played with a stereo projector, where the projected image is view with polarizing glasses. Not as great as a viewer but still pretty cool
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