But isn't it so, that the backing paper is only fixed on one side of the film ? So, 120/620 cameras are actually not made for rewinding the film.

But just from logic ( I never tried it by myself yet though ), spooling the film from 120 to 620 means, spooling it twice. Once on what spool, you like and then once more on a 620 spool while making sure, that the backing paper gets spooled with it.

That shouldn't be difficult by hand ... but with a camera ? How can you make sure, that the backing paper get's grabbed too ? No matter wether you spool the film once or twice, you should have this problem either while spooling the film twice or inserting it into a 620 camera later.

I have a 620 camera ... but unfortunately, I couldn't manage to find empty 620 spools yet Just tried this spooling technique with an old 120 film for fun and it seems to be easy, doing it by hand.

The Kodak No.2 Folding Autographic Brownie should be another camera, that can take both, 120 and 620 film. The film chamber is even big enough for taking 35 mm film cartridges. I want to try that some day. The pictures should look similar to the ones, taken with the "Sprocket Rocket" then:
www.lomography.com/photos/cameras/3328515-lomography-sprocket-rocket/popular
Interesting effect, isn't it.

What kept me away from trying that is the fact. that I couldn't manage to handle the No.2 Autographic Brownie properly yet. The focus is so damn difficult to set on that one. I took a lot of test shots and I couldn't even figure out, where the focus exactly is, also trying to fix the lens with a jammed chop stick ... but it's like trying to cut onions with an ax. What would probably help is, closing the lens completely down and shooting at f:64 or something like that, but then, I would need a speedy film, which looks pretty grainy on 35 mm. Well ... and the 1/50 sec isn't really exciting too. I would just be able to shoot people, if they freeze

Thanks to Curt's hint, I could find this picture ...
www.cameraguild.jp/nekosan/december.htm
... showing a lot of different Museflexes. Mine should be second from left. I will use this picture as a template for refurbishment.

The good news are: Shutter is still working and the lenses are clean like new. So, it just needs some refurbishment from outside.

Definitely want to use it ( even just once for a try ). 828, Bolta film ( never heard of that before ) ... 35 mm should work as well. Just ... how do I get it developed then I just asked in a photo shop in the neighbourhood. They develop 35 mm film by themselves, but they only accept it within the standard canister/container because its an automatized process.

Any ideas on that ? Except the glorious idea of starting to develope film by myself

Thanks for the link, Curt !!! I know Barry ( the owner of this TLR homepage ) and of course, I contacted him as well. He's a kind guy, but he said, that he also has no idea and couldn't find any reference to this camera. Must be something very rare, he wrote.

Very mysterious. It's an amazingly detailed designed camera, having all features of a normal TLR ( so not just a toy camera ). All made from metal, but like a miniature ( the camera has the size of a pack of cigarettes ). So, somebody must have put some effort in designing and manufacturing it.

I also searched the japanese net by using keywords in japanese letters ( people are still not using our alphabet even for non-japanese words ). There are a lot of camera maniacs here, writting blogs about everything ... but no hint.

Barry also said, that the name of the camera/maker doesn't need to be "Meica" as well ( just the lens ), because there might have been a name plate on the camera, which could be missing now.

How little we know sometimes. Same as for my three large format cameras. The maker must be "Hansa", but there can be nothing found about that this company produced large format cameras ever.

There seem to be still a few "empty spaces" in camera history.

I got a pretty strange TLR from an auction today and wonder, if anybody has more information.

It suppose to be a "Special MEICA" ( that's what is written on it ) and it's obviously taking 24x24 mm pictures on roll film ( not 126 or 35 mm cartridges, film like 120 on two film spools, just smaller ). There has been a film inserted, that's why I know it ... but I have never seen such a film type yet.

I also can't find anything in the internet about this camera and even the almighty camerapedia keeps its silence

Any ideas ? It looks horrible on the picture ( not refurbished yet ), but seems to work still.

Berndt

Thanks Mickey !!!

So, you think, there have been two different models ... or exchangeable front elements ? I actually can't imagine any logical reason, why they should have manufactured a front element like this ( where the lens can't be exchanged ), because customers might want to buy the tele lens later as well ( and my granpa obviously did so too ). Sad, that I can't ask him anymore. He died 20 years ago.

In this construction, the lens can't be removed ... except maybe by removing those two srews and the whole front element, which I didn't try yet.

Or ... doesn't it actually look more like a Contina-matic II ?

Lighter fluid ? Wow ... I need to try that.

I shall no longer fret over the disabled old veterans on my shelves.

The Camera Collector is a great psychiatrist's couch.

I think, am still lying on that couch sometimes ;D Especially, when cameras look as if they would work or as if it would be just something, easily to fix ... and then, it is not

I am not an experienced rapairman yet though and still suffering from making a lot of mistakes ... that's what I can live with ... but if I can't find help sometimes and sitting in front of a camera, which is like a pandora box for me ... THAT drives me crazy For example, I have a really beautiful Fujica Six ICS. It looks like it has never been used. Fantastic condition ... except the fact, that the shutter is sticking sometimes. Usually a piece of a cake opening a shutter/lens of a folder ... but I looked at this camera for a hundred times and I have no idea how to do it.

Or ... my Samoca Super. Wanted to adjust the rangefinder, but the screws and mechanics inside has been so rotten, that I broke everything just by touching it. So the "Why the hell did I touch it all ?" syndrome would be another good reason for visiting "the couch for camera collectors"