mickeyobe
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Post by mickeyobe on Nov 7, 2006 0:35:43 GMT -5
For you car lovers. Not really my cup of tea. That little unostentatious, finless, chromeless Toyota across the road is my luxury car. Pentax K100D and a little Photo Shop. No tripod unfortunately.
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Post by Randy on Nov 7, 2006 7:19:01 GMT -5
Very very nice Mickey! After comparing the two cars the only thought that comes to mind is: "gee, you coulda had a V8"!
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Post by Rachel on Nov 7, 2006 16:59:54 GMT -5
I know it's politically incorrect these days but there's something exciting about those "old" cars that modern cars lack.
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Post by mickeyobe on Nov 7, 2006 19:37:14 GMT -5
I agree that OLD cars are exciting. But how old is OLD? The OLD cars possesed originality, beauty, functionality and quality. This Cadillac isn't that old and I think it represents an era of obscene ostentation. It is composed of all kinds of flashy but useless and even dangerous self destructing gew gaws and gimmics and projections that add nothing to the operation or saftey or longevity of the vehicle. The usless chrome decorating it probably wheighs more in total than my entire Toyota. Today the Japanese cars are far more reliable and far less prone to trouble than their American/Canadian competitors. Ford is in serious financial trouble. General Motors is about to be passed by Toyota and Honda is a close second. Chrysler is a rather unsuccessful Daimler subsidiary. The big three have never learned that the car buying public is more interested in purchasing quality than flash. Politically incorrect is synonymous with honesty. We need a lot more of it. Okay. My rant for the month. Mickey
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Post by Just Plain Curt on Nov 7, 2006 19:45:56 GMT -5
Hi Mickey, Don't worry, most of us think your Matrix is cool. (but in a hiway crash, I'd put my money on the Caddy) I've had 14 cars over the years and other than my old Rambler, the last 6 were imports and much smaller but better on gas. I'm old enough to remember the Ford Pinto, Chevy Vega, Dodge Omni and K cars so I know why the big three got off to a bad start, but they're cranking out some gorgeous styled, multi use vehicles these days. Maybe they'll turn things around after all. Now if they can only make them as dependable as we'd like...
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Post by Rachel on Nov 8, 2006 4:11:12 GMT -5
I agree that OLD cars are exciting. But how old is OLD? The OLD cars possesed originality, beauty, functionality and quality.Mickey Well Mickey that's why I put OLD in quotes. I hear what you say about modern cars but to me they all look so much the same. I can't get excited about them.
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Post by mickeyobe on Nov 8, 2006 5:57:21 GMT -5
It's true Rachel. They are very much alike and lack excitement. But they are very, very reliable. My last two cars were Hondas, a 1986 Accord that I drove for 8 years and then gave to my son who used it for another 4 years. Next was a 1994 Accord that I drove for 11 years and traded when it began to show signs of rust. Other than regular maintainance and wear they never gave me an iota of trouble and never a rattle or squeek. Any domestic cars I owned and that included all of the big three were disposed of after an average of no more than 4 years of use. Hey randy. That included 2 Ford V8's. All I ever wanted from a car was safe, reliable, trouble free transportation. I have owned 15 cars since 1954 most of them domestic. None of which I can rave about. The imports both English and Japanese were always the superior products. (Excepting a 1954 Ford Consul.)
Anyone want to talk cameras?
Mickey
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Post by Randy on Nov 8, 2006 8:04:30 GMT -5
I drive an old 1988 Dodge 3/4 ton truck with 132,460 miles on the odometer, and in the last 6 1/2 years all I've had to do is replace a radiator hose. Freda drives a 1988 Dodge van with 240,000 miles on it to work every day. I'll stick to our trucks and vans (4 of them) we haven't owned a car in years. Our camper is a 1976 and it still works too.
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Post by herron on Nov 8, 2006 11:26:25 GMT -5
.........the big three got off to a bad start, but they're cranking out some gorgeous styled, multi use vehicles these days. Maybe they'll turn things around after all. Now if they can only make them as dependable as we'd like....... Like GM's fully transferable 100,000 mile warranty...the best in the business! Putting their money where their mouth is. And Consumer Reports just listed 16 GM vehicles in it's 2007 Recommended list. The Pinto, Omni, K-cars and Vega were 30 years ago! Things have changed! I'm thinking GM is coming back strong! Personally, I don't care if they sell a few less than Toyota (and it hasn't happened yet). They got a little complacent and smug for a while, but they've slimmed down, and set their sights properly for a change, so don't count the beast out just yet! ----- ...and that's my rant for the week!
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Post by kiev4a on Nov 8, 2006 13:06:28 GMT -5
Yep. We drive a Toyota 2002 Toyota Avalon and a 2002 Toyota Tacoma PU. Both, I believe, were built in U.S. plants. Haven't had a speck of trouble with either one. Figure both are good for at least 200,000 miles if maintained properly. I can remember when cars were considered long of tooth at 60 or 70,000 miles. We previously had U.S. cars (Chrysler Corp) but didn't have the quality and as soon as you took 'em off the lot they lost half their value.
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Post by Just Plain Curt on Nov 8, 2006 13:07:47 GMT -5
Hi Ron, I'm sure hoping GM turns things around especially since my new '05 wagon is a Chevy (albeit re-badged Daewoo). I think the new Camaro will really help, not sure about the Cobalt, it made me claustrophobic but the SS version sure goes like the wind. Gotta fire the stylist for the new Avalanche though, ugly as the Honda Ridgeline, PEEWWWW. Hi Randy, I'm sure none of us are bashing US automakers, just as you guys said they got complacent for a while. I wouldn't count out any of the big three just yet. Too much of the American economy is tied to the automakers for any to go bankrupt yet. I think personally the new Fords followed by Pontiac and Chrysler are the top for styling right now. Nobody has anything like the new Mustangs, Pursuits and Chargers. My only beef with any is the price is so high people like myself will probably only be able to lease them soon rather than buy them. At least if I keep buying cameras that is, LOL.
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Post by herron on Nov 8, 2006 15:39:37 GMT -5
Curt: I keep leasing my wife's car for her...it's cheaper for me, less hassle than trying to sell one, fewer major repair bills (don't keep it long enough), and she gets a new car every few years, so she's happy (which, by the way, goes a long way toward allowing me to keep "finding" cameras...or at least bring them home when I do!).....
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Post by herron on Nov 8, 2006 15:46:54 GMT -5
.....We previously had U.S. cars (Chrysler Corp) but didn't have the quality and as soon as you took 'em off the lot they lost half their value.... Well, Wayne, that explains it...they were Chryslers (with apologies to my father, who worked there for 34 years...but he was only responsible for engines, and those were great)!
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Post by John Parry on Nov 8, 2006 17:10:34 GMT -5
The passenger door catch on my Toyota Carina has stopped catching. Means I can't have any passengers!
Regards - John
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Post by vintageslrs on Nov 8, 2006 19:16:16 GMT -5
John
all things considered that might be a good thing ;D
Bob
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