rogprov
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Post by rogprov on May 30, 2006 5:52:14 GMT -5
Recently found this Iloca but with the MPP (Micro Precision Products Ltd) logo and marketed by them in the 50's. All working, even the meter :-) Roger   |
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Post by Randy on May 30, 2006 6:19:01 GMT -5
Nice...I've only seen that camera in a catalog.
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Post by Rachel on May 30, 2006 16:02:51 GMT -5
That's a neat little camera Roger.
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rogprov
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Post by rogprov on May 30, 2006 23:48:44 GMT -5
I found it on eBay. It was just advertised as “old german camera” with a very blurry photo but when I zoomed in I could just about make out the MPP logo. It was in a very grubby state when received but cleaned up fine. Also came with the original leather case. The slower speeds stick a bit so that’ll be a job to do some day but those faster than 1/30th test out reasonably well. I’ll put a film through it sometime and post a picture or two.
Roger
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scott
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Post by scott on Jun 19, 2006 11:22:03 GMT -5
I have a very similar camera, which I assume was a slightly higher-quality model in the Iloca line made about the same time. Mine is branded "Tower" and also Iloca, so probably it was sold by Sears and Roebuck in the USA. Mine has a RF and a 4-element (Tessar type) Cassaron lens, and I have been using it a lot lately, and the images are quite sharp. Does yours have a Cassar lens? Is the Cassar three elements?
BTW, I'm not sure how to add an image with my post on this board? Can someone explain it to me? I clicked the image icon, but that only put some symbols into this message box. Thanks!
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rogprov
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Post by rogprov on Jun 19, 2006 14:33:48 GMT -5
This one has a 50mm f2.8 Cassarit lens which I am assuming is 3 element. You need to host your photos somewhere (I use fickr - its free - www.flickr.com/ ) then insert the url of the image (obtained from the hosting site) between those symbols that clicking the image ikon brings up. It's easy enough to do once you give it a try. |
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Post by physiognomy on Jun 26, 2006 1:33:06 GMT -5
I just won an Iloca Rapid B with the 50mm f/2.8 Cessar S lens... I have heard good reports about the Steinheil lenses in ltm, so hopefully it is a fine performer. I can't wait to get my hands on it!  Image taken from seller's auction... appologies if this is innapropriate Peter |
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Post by Randy on Jun 26, 2006 6:55:59 GMT -5
I just won an Iloca Rapid B with the 50mm f/2.8 Cessar S lens... Image taken from seller's auction... appologies if this is innapropriate Peter We have decided here that if you bought the camera, you bought the picture. No problem here Peter.  |
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scott
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Post by scott on Jun 26, 2006 10:12:17 GMT -5
Hi rogprov and physiognomy!
If you know or can check the lenses on the cameras you have, I'm curious to find out about the design of the various Steinheil lenses I have seen. The only camera with a Steinheil lens I have is my Iloca (see above) with a Cassaron lens. I know it is a Tessar-design lens because I had it out for cleaning. But how about the Cassar and the Cassarit? I was under the impression that the Cassar was a 3-element, and the Cassarit was a Tessar design. Am I right?
Be sure to post some photos when you get a chance to try out your Ilocas!
Thanks for the clarification, Peter! Turns out I was remembering a different lens.
"The Cassarit was also a triplet but had much thicker front and rear elements and a larger diameter front element.
Wright mentions the Cassaron as another triplet but does not give a diagram of it.
Peter W "
It seems a pity to have a camera like these Ilocas with decent build quality and a good shutter-- and a three-element lens. But I guess these lower-end mass-marketed cameras were used almost exclusively for holiday snaps (I'm sorry, but that phrase always makes me think of the "wink wink nudge nudge" sketch), and small prints. Also, most people couldn't tell the difference between a good and a bad lens, anyway.
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PeterW
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Post by PeterW on Jun 26, 2006 11:46:25 GMT -5
Hi Scott,
Accoding to Dr. Neil Wright's Lens Collector's Vade Mecum all the Steinheil Cassxxx lenses were triplets.
The original Cassar was a 1930s design but was redesigned after the war to use the new 'rare earth' glasses becoming available. It was reputed to have good contrast but needed stopping down to get the best definition
The Cassarit was also a triplet but had much thicker front and rear elements and a larger diameter front element.
Wright mentions the Cassaron as another triplet but does not give a diagram of it.
Peter W
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Post by physiognomy on Jul 1, 2006 8:23:00 GMT -5
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rogprov
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Post by rogprov on Jul 1, 2006 15:17:17 GMT -5
Thanks for the link Peter.
Roger
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Post by physiognomy on Jul 5, 2006 0:26:46 GMT -5
No worries Roger! Glad it was useful...
Peter
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Post by daveh on May 30, 2010 14:55:03 GMT -5
Somewhere in a box (with other assorted oddments) I have an Iloca IA (or is it a IB?). I bought it in about 1967. I actually had two (perhaps one of each) but one collapsed and probably went in the bin
Brief specification (from memory): bottom loading 35mm. Prontor-S shutter, top speed 1/300. Front element focussing, f 3.5 (I think). Separate film wind and shutter cocking mechanism, if I remember correctly.
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