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Post by kamera on Dec 7, 2005 7:26:57 GMT -5
Ron Herron,
I really like that fist...and Joe Louis...yeah right...first of all I do not like boxing...two persons just trying to beat the slop out of each other. I had the same thought as Heath as to whether it moves in the wind!?
Actually Ron, it is your formal training that scuddles your brain and makes it impossible to appreciate some of this fantastic art that took so long to think up and then even longer to produce it...ha, ha!
Kalamazoo has its share of these oddities also, and IMO they are junk that detracts from the beauty of the city. I never could figure out why the city government would even allow such atrosities to be displayed.
Ron Head Kalamazoo, MI
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Post by heath on Dec 7, 2005 8:32:52 GMT -5
Lets get a bit of a challend going.
How about we photograph the most outragious artwork that we can find around our local haunts.
I am sure we can find some interesting things.
Heath
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Post by herron on Dec 7, 2005 10:34:27 GMT -5
that fist...and Joe Louis...I had the same thought as Heath as to whether it moves in the wind!? Actually Ron, it is your formal training that scuddles your brain and makes it impossible to appreciate some of this fantastic art that took so long to think up and then even longer to produce it...ha, ha! LOL I've never seen it move, but I guess that doesn't mean it couldn't. Would take one heck of a wind, I would imagine, even if it is only anchored by those wires...the thing is solid bronze! Still, if I wanted to memorialize Joe Louis as a Detroit sports figure, I like to think it would be something more appropriate to the man (and the city) than a giant fist. And, Ron H, the early part of my formal training was in art...and I produced some very strange "creative" things when I first went to college, even though my original intent was to major in economics or statistics (why I changed direction is, well...a long story ) I normally don't get into art opinion debates because of that...I understand how subjective those things can be (and, Heath, I actually like some of Jackson Pollock's work, if only because he was the first one to think of doing it, and was actually able to intellectualize what it was about...but is it worth $40M (or even $1.3M)? Uh....sorry, no. Not even if I could (which I'll never have to worry about)! It's probably a good thing I'm into collecting cameras, instead of art. My taste runs to the Cezanne, Monet, Van Gogh, Gauguin...which in the art world is probably similar today to collecting Leica and Hasselblad for cameras! (although if I had lived in the 1890s or early 1900s I would have been ridiculed for even thinking those painters were "artists" -- funny, isn't it?) And I like the idea of trying to photograph the most outrageous piece of "art" in our local areas! Even though it would be terribly subjective, I can still think of several I would nominate, and it might be fun to compare opinions! ;D
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Post by herron on Dec 9, 2005 0:28:19 GMT -5
Found a picture of our own local "art" fountain. I'll let folks judge for themselves...this sits not too far from the "Fist"........
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Post by Randy on Dec 9, 2005 6:54:20 GMT -5
It's funny how the funds get appropriated for stuff like that but they can't come up with the funds to build a place for kids to do something constuctive other than hang out and play video games.
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Post by mickeyobe on Dec 9, 2005 18:25:12 GMT -5
I can't resist. Put a grate on top and convert the water to natural gas (from Canada, naturally) and VOILA! The world's largest barbeque. Mickey
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Post by Rachel on Dec 11, 2005 5:04:40 GMT -5
But I also recall some of the "art" exhibits I have seen over the years...like a 10x12 room where the only thing in it was a straight line of masking tape on the floor (the only thing, that is, if you ignored the brass plaque telling you what the masking tape "art" signified). We visited an old mansion on Friday which had some rooms as art galleries. I looked through the door at one and decided they were probably doing it out as there were only a half dozen modern art pictures on the wall and a few piles of rubble and a stepladder in the middle of the floor. I guess, on reflection, that the stepladder and piles of rubble were probably exhibits
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Post by herron on Dec 12, 2005 16:43:30 GMT -5
We visited an old mansion on Friday which had some rooms as art galleries. I looked through the door at one and decided they were probably doing it out as there were only a half dozen modern art pictures on the wall and a few piles of rubble and a stepladder in the middle of the floor. I guess, on reflection, that the stepladder and piles of rubble were probably exhibits The local art institute (back in the 70s) once contracted (as I recall, for about $25,000) an "artist" to drag a 35-ton block of granite around-and-around the front lawn. Tore the yard up something awful. It was his specialty...he called his projects "Earthworks" and had some that were just large rectangular holes dug in the ground. They looked for all the world like the holes you could see in a cemetary. I suppose they were for the curators who approved spending money on the mess! When he was done, he just unchained the bulldozer and drove it onto a flatbed truck and left. The museum had to contract someone else to haul the block of granite away....and then pay a landscaper to redo the lawn!
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Post by Just Plain Curt on Dec 12, 2005 19:31:18 GMT -5
We had a big hulabaloo a few years back when the museum in Ottawa I believe bought a large painting consisting of a huge navy blue rectangle with a red stripe up the center for several million dollars. What a farce. Next time I fall off a ladder (Don't laugh I do it a lot, lol) with a bucket of paint onto a sheet of plywood I know who I'm gonna sell it to and for big buckaroos.
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Post by kamera on Dec 13, 2005 11:35:52 GMT -5
Curt,
You make joke of the just splattered paint bit...gosh, not you falling off the ladder...but I recall a documentary on a 'modern' artist a few years back and all she did was take paint and splatter it around on her 'canvas' laid out on the floor. And these people somehow make money and get a reputation as an artist...wow!! Go ahead and see what you can do. Then all we members can tell our grandchildren that we know a famous artistic painter.
Ron Head Kalamazoo, MI
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Post by Just Plain Curt on Dec 13, 2005 20:20:12 GMT -5
Hi Ron, The last time I fell off a ladder I crawled into the house till I could breathe again and my shoulder hung down for 6 weeks. Later Xrays turned up scar tissue from a collapsed lung and two dislocated ribs. Did I mention I fall off ladders too often? Think maybe I'll just try and stand on the ladder to scatter the paint otherwise you can claim to have known a "Former" artist, LOL.
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Post by mickeyobe on Dec 14, 2005 11:33:41 GMT -5
I am still not doing it right. Dammit! I think I'll go back to crayons.
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Post by PeterW on Dec 14, 2005 11:49:22 GMT -5
Hi Mickey, Can't remember now what you're trying to do. If it's post a pic on this board I could help if I could get into your Photobucket album, but the link you gave leads to a Photobucket page which asks for your password which I obviously don't have. However, try this: 1. Open your album in Photobucket. 2. Underneath your picture you'll see three boxes marked Url, Tag and Img. 3. Copy everything from the Img box, including the bits in square brackets at each end, and paste it in your posting here. Check that it's transfered OK by clicking on Preview. If it has, type in your text. Hope that helps and you can put your crayons away Peter
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Post by mickeyobe on Dec 14, 2005 12:53:43 GMT -5
Peter, Thank you very much. I followed your instructions exactly but there is no "Preview" on my computer (eMac). So I am going to send this and see what happens. Meanwhile I shall delete my first message. No point having this site clogged up with Mickey stuff. Mickey
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Post by mickeyobe on Dec 14, 2005 12:55:59 GMT -5
Peter, Merci beaucoup. It worked. O.K. now. Whazzit?
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