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Post by vintageslrs on Jun 22, 2006 19:15:32 GMT -5
 Mamiya DSX 500 Mamiya 55mm F1.8 Fuji 100  Fujica ST 901 Fujinon 55mm F1.8 Fuji 100  Mamiya DSX 500 Mamiya 55mm F1.8 Fuji 100  Mamiya DSX 500 Mamiya 55mm F1.8 Fuji 100 converted to B&W Bob |
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Post by byuphoto on Jun 22, 2006 19:33:46 GMT -5
Bob, all are great but I just love the last one. Something about scenery and B&W
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Post by vintageslrs on Jun 23, 2006 9:50:34 GMT -5
better in color or B&W?  or Bob |
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Post by PeterW on Jun 23, 2006 12:36:47 GMT -5
I like black and white, but in this case I've got to say I like the colour shot better. The changes in colour seem to give more depth to the picture.
Peter W.
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Post by John Parry on Jun 23, 2006 14:37:48 GMT -5
An 'awkward' subject for me - I've never developed the eye for b&w shots that I like to think I have for colour. I often look at a picture on here and think 'wonder what that was like in colour' or vice versa. Funnily enough, I asked myself that of your last shot here. I like to see the before and after shots.
In general (and in this instance) I prefer colour. It has to have a stark set of contrasts for me to go for the b&w in most cases. (Marilyn Monroe, in the Black Sitting springs to mind). A product of my own inadequacies I'm afraid.
Regards - John
ps Nice Stumps!
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Post by vintageslrs on Jun 23, 2006 14:56:40 GMT -5
Peter
you nailed it right on the head..........
I also think the color photo (in this instance) has much more depth..........
Bob
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Post by vintageslrs on Jun 23, 2006 15:04:50 GMT -5
John
I understand completely about you preferring color, in general............some do and some don't.
but hey, it reminds of a funny story........my daughter who is now 24------was looking at some photos I had taken in the '70s and at the time she must have been about 5 or 6 years old.....she looked at a bunch of B&W photos I had taken with my original Fujica ST801 (which I still have) had looked at me curiously and asked "when did the world turn into color?".
I loved it..........laughed like hell---trying to imagine in her mind that the entire world musta been Black and White and that's why the photos were B&W.
I still bust her about that till this day.......but it was cute as hell when she asked.
Bob
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Post by PeterW on Jun 24, 2006 7:07:07 GMT -5
Hi Bob,
A couple or so years ago I found an interesting site on the net where the writer talked about visual perspective and the perspective of colour.
He put up four versions of a shot taken looking along the centre of a straight railway track with the rails coverging as they went into the distance.
The first was in black and white, with massive depth of field, and the converging rails naturally gave visual perspective to the shot.
In the second he tinted the sleepers, running through the spectrum with bright yellow for the nearest to deep violet the further they got away. This really enhanced the feeling of distance.
In the third he reversed the colours - violet nearest and bright yellow furthest away, and it looked all wrong, almost disturbing, as your mind struggled to relate to what he called visual perspective to colour perspective.
In the fourth one he gradually blurred the outline of the sleepers as they got further away, and this gave the greatest feeling of depth out of the four.
He pointed out that in a two-dimensional picture the artist or photographer has to deceive the mind of the viewer to make it believe the perspective is real, but when we look at a scene in nature with our eyes the perspective we see is totally different, and a complicated combination of things. Our eyes don't work like a camera's lens.
First, we (normally) use both eyes which gives 'binocular' perspective, like a pair of stereoscopic photographs.
Second, the depth of field of our eyes is very, very small. They are constantly refocusing the nearer or further things are to us.
Third, unless we are exceptionally long sighted, objects are less distinct the further they are away.
Lastly, the suspended moisture in the atmosphere acts like a filter to tone colours towards the blue end of the spectrum the further they are away.
It was a fascinating site and I wish I'd bookmarked it, or printed it out, but I didn't. I looked for it after you posted your two pictures but I can't find it again.
Peter
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Post by vintageslrs on Jun 24, 2006 15:52:01 GMT -5
Peter
thanks much for the info........
would love to see that site you mentioned if you ever see come across it again.
in this case it seems the different natural shades of green really adds to the perception of depth.
Bob
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