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Post by nikonbob on Nov 13, 2007 7:15:35 GMT -5
Dave
I followed your link on the devils and I wish everyone involved there the best of luck in keeping them from extinction. Poor little buggers, to have survived extinction through bounty hunting only to face this new deadly threat.
Bob
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Post by kiev4a on Nov 13, 2007 11:11:38 GMT -5
Dave:
That's the link I saw. That's a rather strange disease. Don't know that I've ever heard of a species being threatened by something like that. I hope they find a cure or at least a way to control it. They might be mostly bluff but from the looks of their teeth and claws I don't think I would pick one up and try to pet it.
A friend of mine once had a pet badger named Barney. He liked to sit on visitors' laps. He was the bane of every car and dog within a mile. One day Barney was sunning himself on the front stop of his owner's house and a passerby who didn't know the story spotted him, jumped out of his pickup and plugged poor ole Barney with a .22
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Post by John Parry on Nov 13, 2007 15:57:26 GMT -5
I trust your friend let fly with both his Colt 45's Wayne? Only thing to do in those circumstances - shoot back.
You can see how we have a problem with that mindset?
Regards - John
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Post by kiev4a on Nov 13, 2007 17:11:22 GMT -5
Barney's owner was an attorney. But the incident occurred in a county larger than Massachusetts with a population of less than 10,000. Stranger things have happens there, I assure you, and many had nothing to do with firearms.
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Post by mickeyobe on Nov 13, 2007 19:12:21 GMT -5
The attorney probably deserved it for badgering the witnesses.
Mickey
P.S. "Massachusets ...." "Stranger things have happened there,....." Yes. There is that story of this weird guy riding his horse about in the middle of the night shouting somthing about the arms of red coats. M.O.
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Post by kiev4a on Nov 13, 2007 20:32:01 GMT -5
"The Regulars are out!!!
Historians have done some calculating on the number of shots fired by the Minutemen who tangled with thr British Regulars along the road to Lexington and Concord. If the Yanks were half the marksmen they have been made out to be, not one Redcoat would have made it back to Boston. In reality they were lucky to hit the side of a Middlesex barn IF the barn wasn't moving too much.
Even with the poor marksmanship the British probably wouldn't have made it back if it hadn't been for th leadership of a Royal Marine Major, John Pitcarin. He kept his head while all those around him were panicking. And he had pretty much gone along as an observer. By all accounts Pitcarin was a nice guy--even cared about the enlisted men. Unfortunately he was killed at Breed's Hill.
Now you know more than you ever wanted to know about an American history event that has been slipped into a Tasmanian thread.
There will be a written quiz at a later date.
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Post by John Parry on Nov 13, 2007 23:39:31 GMT -5
Wayne -
It gave us good practice for the Peninsular War a couple of decades later. The French conscripts could manage two shots a minute. The British 'Regulars" (having learned their lesson from the earlier fracas), were trained to put out three or four. That, combined with their tactics of a two-deep front (the thin red line, putting out a devastating volley every 10 - 15 seconds), enabled them to outgun the enemy in every encounter they had - culminating in the 'hard pounding' at Waterloo.
Don't get too cocky - you just caught us on a bad day!!
Regards - John
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Post by mickeyobe on Nov 14, 2007 1:41:12 GMT -5
Wayne, John,
I didn't mean to start another revolutionary war. John, keep your tea. Wayne, cease fire. They aren't taxing you any more.
Mickey
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Post by PeterW on Nov 14, 2007 6:00:34 GMT -5
John,
With a two-rank front - front line kneeling, rear standing, - and each rank firing alternately - there would be a volley every five to seven and a half seconds.
At least, that's what I understand the tactic was with the 19th century British Square if a company was caught out in the open.
With the introduction of the underlever rifle, and later the Lee Enfield bolt-action rifle, the individual rate of fire rose to about one round a second, so the command 'front rank fire; rear rank fire' and so on was changed to 'In your own time, rapid fire'.
PeterW
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Post by mickeyobe on Nov 14, 2007 6:51:19 GMT -5
Dave,
I apologize on behalf of all CC'ers for having turned peaceful Evandale into a war zone.
Mickey
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Post by John Parry on Nov 14, 2007 6:59:27 GMT -5
Mickey
I think the fact that we can have banter like this on here, will tell Dave and anybody else who's interested, just about all they need to know about this forum !!
LOL
Regards - John
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Post by John Parry on Nov 14, 2007 9:45:23 GMT -5
Peter
Of course you're right - the rolling volley fire of the British infantry was devastating. One little aside (OK we've dragged poor old Dave's thread backwards forwards and sideways. so another one won't matter!). You'll see in film after film about the Wild West, the Northwest Frontier, the Indian Mutiny, the Opium Wars and so on, the order is given "Take cover". That never happened - soldiers were expected to stand up to be shot at. Very rarely, when a regiment was being raked by cannon fire, the order was given to "Lie down" - but of course, you can't load a muzzle loading weapon from a prone position. The first time the order was actually approved was during the second Boer War - where the Afrikaaner sharpshooters with their German rifles decimated the 'redcoats'. And of course, following that - the armies of the world moved (slowly) towards the camouflage that we see today.
Regards - John
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Post by kiev4a on Nov 14, 2007 9:53:45 GMT -5
Great pictures! Evandale is a beautiful place. I keep forgetting summer is just starting down there. Wish I could hop hop a flight that direction.I seem like I see a lot of posting from Down Under on forums that were shot with Mamiyas. It must have been one of the more popular brands over there.
There. Back on track!
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Post by herron on Nov 14, 2007 12:07:23 GMT -5
Hi Dave, Looks like a nice place to live, quiet and clean. I bet Ron Herron will really like these photos too. Curt: I do! And I was fortunate to see them first, when Dave posted them on my Mamiya forum! Looks like my kind of place. I've really grown to dislike the "big city" atmosphere. ----- Wayne: Mamiya apparently sold a lot of cameras in Australia. I've never seen the production or sales statistics (still looking for them, after all this time), but you do see a lot of used Mamiya equipment coming out of Australia! ----- How's that? Not one mention of the Tasmanian Devil -- or the Revolution!
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