SidW
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Post by SidW on Mar 15, 2008 19:49:31 GMT -5
I tried to "buy now" on that online auction place and before I was allowed to confirm the purchase, I was taken to a "security" page that requested my Visa card number "for identification" purposes. I emailed the security center asking them to confirm if this was a legit site page or a crafty phishing scam. No response after two prods. Has anyone here been shown that page requesting your card number "for identification" before being allowed to confirm a purchase? The same request comes up if I try to "ask the seller a question". So far I haven't complied, I back off and abandon the transaction.
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Post by Just Plain Curt on Mar 15, 2008 19:58:38 GMT -5
Hi Sid, Nope, I virtually live on eBay and I've never seen this before. I've used the "Buy It Now" option many times and this is not how it has been handled at least in my experience (over 820 transactions in the last 5 years).
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Post by herron on Mar 15, 2008 20:38:04 GMT -5
Sid: Does the auction specifically say it will only take credit card orders? A very few of them do ... and I always avoid them. None that I have run across request it before verifying the transaction. I would NOT give out that information, and suggest you report this over-and-over to evilBay until someone answers you!
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Post by olroy2044 on Mar 15, 2008 20:47:45 GMT -5
Sid: Ron and Curt have it right. The bay of evil specifically warns about these sorts of transactions. That is one reason I only do business with established sellers, preferably Paypal users. Roy
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Post by SidW on Mar 16, 2008 18:01:08 GMT -5
Thanks for your thoughts. This has happened twice very recently. The second time, for a book, I logged out and went to Amazon and there was the same seller and book, so I got my book anyway. But that's beside the point, except to say that the seller was good and had the book and sent it promptly.
Let me be more specific. 1. An item is for sale "buy now". 2. Click "Buy now" and get sent to a bid page to confirm the bid. 3. Click "Confirm bid" and expect to go to a checkout. 4. But no, an Ebay page comes up explaining the need to confirm my identity to combat sham bidders masquerading as someone else, use the card number as proof of identity. 5. At this point I cancel and try to write a note to the seller. 6. Same procedure, first identify yourself ......
I'll give it a try again and see what happens now. I'm watching the first seller's item (an Exakta brochure that hasn't been sold yet after several weeks). so i'll start there.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2008 20:27:43 GMT -5
Sid:
Run away!
That does not sound like any legit buy it now.
You don't confirm your identity by giving someone your CC number.
Wayne
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Post by SidW on Mar 17, 2008 7:47:52 GMT -5
Wayne, I've had that thought too, that buy me now brochure is still up at a reasonable price, these things usually go fairly quickly. The seller's score is 4529 at 99.9% so I don't suspect anything there.. He sells plenty of stuff every day, this last week included a sale at $1800. In both cases I would have used PayPal.
I made a test purchase last night, a buy-me-now book from a seller in California with a good turnover. The purchase went through as it should have, without being diverted when confirming the bid. Unfortunately I needed to write for the shipping as it wasn't available on checkout. And the request for identity confirmation came up then, as before. I backed out, and found a "request invoice" link and that worked as it should. In any case the seller had already emailed one. Within minutes it was paid.
I'll write to the security center again. The sporadic way this thing comes up makes it look like a scam. Whenever I've had an e-mail phishing attempt they've always thanked me later for helping get it sorted out. I can understand their silence this time since it looks to be site related.
I've taken screen shots at every step.
I''ll let you know what happens.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2008 9:03:41 GMT -5
There's two possibilities: One is that scammers have found a way to hook into a legetimate account during the checkout process to collect card numbers.
The other is that if it is a U.S. buyer, the fact that you are in another country triggers some sort of additional confirmation procedure.
Wayne
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2008 20:55:33 GMT -5
I'll have to take back what I said. I bought something tonight on Ebay and got the same request to update CC u.nfo. Everything I saw indicated it was legitimate
Wayne
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Post by SidW on Mar 29, 2008 17:41:49 GMT -5
I'll have to take back what I said. I bought something tonight on Ebay and got the same request to update CC u.nfo. Everything I saw indicated it was legitimate Wayne, you wrote that you were asked to update your cc infor. I was being asked to provide my card number in order to verify my identity before being allowed to confirm a bid. I've never, ever, had a request like that from anyone at any time in any place. I cancelled the operation and did not buy anything.
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Post by Just Plain Curt on Mar 29, 2008 18:21:15 GMT -5
I buy on average about twice a week (I know, obsession) and have only had scam emails sent to my email address asking for a credit card update, never ever on eBay in the last 4 or so years. Strange and I use two different mailing address depending who I buy from, I have a confirmed US mailing address as well as my home address.
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