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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2009 12:13:13 GMT -5
This message is coming to you via a new OS I installed yesterday--Windows 7.
Mine is a beta copy of the OS which is supposed to be released before the holidays this year replacing Windows Vista. If the general public, however, finds out home much version this version is--even in Beta--than Vista--everyone will stop buying new computers until Windows 7 is released. That's not good because MS already is laying off people because of declining sales.
Anyway, Win 7 hasn'r crashed even once on me--installs in a half hour (clean install) books and connects to wireless nexworks in about onw quarter of the time as Vista.
The worst part will be somewhere down the road when the Beta license expires. Hopefully there will be someone of updating to the public release without starting over.
Wayne
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Post by nikonbob on Jan 25, 2009 12:32:29 GMT -5
Darn, just when I was getting used to XP. I am wondering why Vista is being replaced so quickly. Was it a turkey that just won't fly? Good to hear that Win7 Beta is working so well for you but I will stay with XP for as long as possible.
Bob
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Post by PeterW on Jan 25, 2009 16:40:42 GMT -5
Hi Wayne,
My son John is on Microsoft's Beta testing list and has been trying the Beta version of Windows 7 for about three months. No mention from Microsoft, though, about whether they will eventually release both a Home version and a Pro version of Windows 7.
Like you, John likes Windows 7 better than even the latest full version of Vista (the cut-down home version of Vista always was a disaster area). Windows 7 is also happy to run old versions of PS, Quark and Dreamweaver, and is reliable and stable with them, whereas Vista isn't
The big grouch John had about the full version of Vista was that to run it properly using all the functions it's got it needs a computer with a lot of computing power, at least a dual-core Pentium. On anything less it either kept crashing or going to pages that he didn't ask it to go to. The other grouch was that so few makers of peripherals like printers and scanners could provide drivers for Vista for anything but their current models, so anyone with a superseded model ... hard luck!
When John mentioned to Microsoft that to run properly Vista needed a lot of computing power Microsoft said - in essence - that it wasn't their fault if the computer building indutry didn't keep up with the latest software, and that was why they had Vista Home.
So far, John's found that Windows 7 doesn't need a super-power computer to run it properly. It's stable and it's fast even without a super-computer. And, big point, all the peripheral drivers he's tried so far work fine with Windows 7 even though they were written for XP. Put in drivers written for Vista, and Windows 7 doesn't want to know most of them, so I can forecast some howls coming up from offices running Vista with networked drivers when Win 7 eventually replaces Vista.
It would seem that Microsoft got it's knickers in a twist over Vista and is trying very hard to untangle them.
I also agree with Bob that once they hear about Win 7 due to appear the general public isn't going to buy a new computer with a pre-installed Vista system. They're going to wait till new computers come with Win 7 pre-installed.
BTW, Hewlett Packard has just come up with a new driver for its black and white laser printers called HP Universal PCL5. It's supposed to be equally happy with current models and old superseded models. So far I've tried it on two superseded models and it works fine - at least it does on Windows XP Pro. Haven't tried it yet on Windows 7.
Of course, they had to give it a new look. I've yet to find a way to get it to default to A4 instead of US Letter, so I have to choose 'user-specified paper size' each time. Duplexing (printing on both sides of the paper provided the printer has this facility) is now called Eco-Print - Eco presumably standing for Economy because you use less paper.
So far they haven't come up with a generic driver for their colour laser printers, but mine, also a superseded model, works fine on the driver HP suggested I try.
peterW
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Post by renaldo on Jan 25, 2009 18:47:14 GMT -5
When my wife got her new PC about 2 years ago, she wanted Vista basically just to have the newest Window version.
However as she is a quad, she uses special high technology to operate a PC with about 98% independence. As Microsoft has done with all their updates since Windows 95, they have rather much deleted all connections that the special technology needs to operate. All so they can buff up other facets of the OS. Granted, physically challenged persons are a small percentage of the users, but still need to be able to operate a PC. They even negated the use of an AB switch.
The company who makes her technology has been working to come up with something for 2 1/2 years to no avail. And even trying to work with Microsoft on the matter. But MS has included blocks to all such attemts. And Microsoft has stated they are not interested and basically...TS. So much for their real concern for the consumer!
So she had to opt for XP...and would you know...all the PC's at the time were coming through with Vista. She could not even special order XP. We finally contacted Dell and thankfully they were still offering either XP or Vista. And, as with the other PC brands, the dual core was standard which in fact allowed her and a mouse user to operate similtaneously...a big thing if she got in a jam and needed assistance.
I had not even heard of the new Windows 7. The wife's tower has enough slots and capacity that she should be able to get plenty enough disc gigs and memory if and when she needs it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2009 23:40:47 GMT -5
Peter: We Delta tested a BIG HP color Laserjet--the 6040 (and got a brand new one for doing the testing. It can do up to 12x18 color prints but our production depatment was having trouble getting decent color on cmyk jobs. The HP people sent us a coupy yf the Universal Driver and the problem was solved. The real test on my computer will be when I install my Dreamweaver 3 program--about8-10 years old. It ran OK onXP pro and grudgingly on Vista. Winzip 8 would install on Vista but with all sorts of compatibility warnings. In installs on Win 7 with nary a burp. The specs call for at least a gig of memory to run Win 7 but I've seen reports of people running it without problems on 512 meg machines. Hi Wayne, My son John is on Microsoft's Beta testing list and has been trying the Beta version of Windows 7 for about three months. No mention from Microsoft, though, about whether they will eventually release both a Home version and a Pro version of Windows 7. Like you, John likes Windows 7 better than even the latest full version of Vista (the cut-down home version of Vista always was a disaster area). Windows 7 is also happy to run old versions of PS, Quark and Dreamweaver, and is reliable and stable with them, whereas Vista isn't The big grouch John had about the full version of Vista was that to run it properly using all the functions it's got it needs a computer with a lot of computing power, at least a dual-core Pentium. On anything less it either kept crashing or going to pages that he didn't ask it to go to. The other grouch was that so few makers of peripherals like printers and scanners could provide drivers for Vista for anything but their current models, so anyone with a superseded model ... hard luck! When John mentioned to Microsoft that to run properly Vista needed a lot of computing power Microsoft said - in essence - that it wasn't their fault if the computer building indutry didn't keep up with the latest software, and that was why they had Vista Home. So far, John's found that Windows 7 doesn't need a super-power computer to run it properly. It's stable and it's fast even without a super-computer. And, big point, all the peripheral drivers he's tried so far work fine with Windows 7 even though they were written for XP. Put in drivers written for Vista, and Windows 7 doesn't want to know most of them, so I can forecast some howls coming up from offices running Vista with networked drivers when Win 7 eventually replaces Vista. It would seem that Microsoft got it's knickers in a twist over Vista and is trying very hard to untangle them. I also agree with Bob that once they hear about Win 7 due to appear the general public isn't going to buy a new computer with a pre-installed Vista system. They're going to wait till new computers come with Win 7 pre-installed. BTW, Hewlett Packard has just come up with a new driver for its black and white laser printers called HP Universal PCL5. It's supposed to be equally happy with current models and old superseded models. So far I've tried it on two superseded models and it works fine - at least it does on Windows XP Pro. Haven't tried it yet on Windows 7. Of course, they had to give it a new look. I've yet to find a way to get it to default to A4 instead of US Letter, so I have to choose 'user-specified paper size' each time. Duplexing (printing on both sides of the paper provided the printer has this facility) is now called Eco-Print - Eco presumably standing for Economy because you use less paper. So far they haven't come up with a generic driver for their colour laser printers, but mine, also a superseded model, works fine on the driver HP suggested I try. peterW |
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Post by Reiska on Feb 2, 2009 10:16:21 GMT -5
Obviously one of the main factors in a Windows 7 is a new Minwin core. I have Vista in my computer but my wife Marja-Liisa (Mary-Louise) uses XP in her PC and it is faster and in many ways more convenient to use. For instance, Vista asks TOO much.
Two days ago Windows delivered a new and big update. When I was updated those two computers, I went to Google for a testing and I had no access on any site. "the site may contain something, that might affect your computer"
I cursed B.G. and his dynasty (Not the first time) , reversed registry changes, deleted this and that, cursed B.G. , made changes in the registry, uninstalled and installed, until I "solved" the problem.
Next morning I red on a newspaper, that Google apologizes the mess what has occurred. It was a global trouble caused by a human error, I cursed Google ;D
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Post by renaldo on Feb 2, 2009 14:29:10 GMT -5
I have not seen any reviews on Windows 7, but have heard from many a person and site that Vista has big problems.
Fortunitly when we...well, the wife to be more specific...got a new Dell PC you could still have either XP or Vista and we opted for X.
There is one problem we are experiencing in the last 3 weeks, and we do not know if such came in a Windows Update or what. They have an application (I think that is the right term) called Windows Live and Hotmail. Now, when trying to click into various places frequent, I must sign in with ID and password for Windows Live to proceed. Also, some of my email that normally came through Yahoo is now routed to Hotmail.
I do not have any trojans or viruses according to my purgers Webroot and Norton.
I can find access to ways to delete SL and HM but they appear to be fake and do not work.
This problem has been most frustrating.
Anyone with Windows experiencing the same or have any advice, please comment!!!
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Post by Reiska on Feb 2, 2009 15:40:34 GMT -5
Renaldo, You can uninstal Silverlight (if you mean that with SL) by going to Control Panel /Add or Remove programs/choose Silverlight/click Remove and so on. Here are instructions for deleting the Hotmail Account. ask-leo.com/how_do_i_delete_my_hotmail_account.htmlI hope these helps, Reijo |
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Post by renaldo on Feb 2, 2009 19:30:37 GMT -5
Reijo
Hit the wrong key...wanted to type WL for Windows Live.
I had seen Leo's site before, and actually closed the hotmail account about 4 times, but it refuses to get the heck off my system.
One thing I did dig up today is that Windows Live and Hotmail are part of XP Security Pack 2. Interesting as SP2 has been on this machine for over a year and Windows Live and Hotmail have only shown up in the past few weeks.
Renaldo
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Post by PeterW on Feb 2, 2009 20:19:50 GMT -5
Renaldo,
If you click on 'start', botom left of your screen, and go to 'control panel' you can click that and then double click on Add or Remove Programs.
From memory there are three programs to remove to get rid of Windows Live. One is called Window Live Installer, and I think the other two are called Windows Live Messenger and Windows Live Sign-in Assistant.
Whatever their individual names, click on everything labelled Windows Live in turn and click the 'Remove' button at the bottom right of the panel that appears. That should get rid of WL completely. You may have to restart the computer afterwards, I can't remember, but it does no harm anyway
Hope that goes some way to eliminating your problems
I've never had Hotmail on my computer, so I don't know how to get rid of it.
peterW
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