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Post by John Parry on Oct 27, 2009 13:01:52 GMT -5
... thought I'd posted this one. Saltmarsh at dawn...  Regards - John |
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Post by nikonbob on Oct 27, 2009 15:10:48 GMT -5
Just a lovely peaceful scene you have managed to capture. Great way to start a day.
Bob
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Post by Mark Vaughan on Oct 27, 2009 16:04:52 GMT -5
John,
Great picture. I learned a rule of thumb as a kid that you've just apparently blown out of the water: I was taught to always align the horizon line at either 1/3 down from the top of the frame, or 1/3 up from the bottom of the frame. You appear to have aligned at precisely 1/2 to a fine result.
Great depth!
Mark
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Post by PeterW on Oct 27, 2009 18:18:35 GMT -5
Very nice shot, John.
After reading Mark's reply I tried using a sheet of paper on the screen to mask off the blank sky in the top of the picture and lift the horizon to about two-thirds of the way up the picture.
To be honest I'm not absolutely sure if this improves it or not. I'm inclined to think it does, and were it mine I would be inclined to do it, but it's your picture so try it and see what you think.
The "thirds" rule of composition, like the Golden Means and never having a person, an animal or a vehicle going out of the picture but always into it, are "rules" based on experience. But, like all rules, they're for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men.
PeterW
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Post by mickeyobe on Oct 27, 2009 18:31:56 GMT -5
John,
No matter what rules you may have broken I forgive you.
What a magnificent peaceful vista.
Mickey
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Post by Mark Vaughan on Oct 27, 2009 21:22:10 GMT -5
Here's me breaking that "horizon line" rule... My girls and friends at a Lake Whitney in TX this past weekend.  Nikkormat EL, Nikkor 50mm f1.4, Kodak Gold 400 Mark |
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Post by John Parry on Oct 27, 2009 21:40:53 GMT -5
Oh no... I didn't break the rules of photography again did I?
Oh well - it's five o'clock somewhere!
Regards - John
ps - lovely family and friends shot Mark
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Post by herron on Oct 28, 2009 15:13:00 GMT -5
John, Great picture. I learned a rule of thumb as a kid that you've just apparently blown out of the water: I was taught to always align the horizon line at either 1/3 down from the top of the frame, or 1/3 up from the bottom of the frame. You appear to have aligned at precisely 1/2 to a fine result. Great depth! Mark Mark: I don't think this breaks the "rule of thirds" at all!  My interpretation of that rule is that subject matter should be at or near the 1/3 mark, and John's subject is not just the horizon, but all the material in the foreground. IMHO that's why it works! |
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Post by herron on Oct 28, 2009 15:17:22 GMT -5
Here's me breaking that "horizon line" rule... My girls and friends at a Lake Whitney in TX this past weekend. Mark Again, the subject is the girls, not the horizon line...and you've got them in the bottom third just fine!  If it were me, I'd lose the horizon line altogether with a little judicious cropping. BTW - cute kids, nice pic. |
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Post by Mark Vaughan on Oct 28, 2009 19:22:47 GMT -5
Ron -
Thanks for pointing that out. In fact, my favorite part of John's picture is the reeds/brush in the foreground (which - as you point out - is in the bottom third).
Thanks,
Mark
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Post by John Parry on Oct 28, 2009 22:18:14 GMT -5
Here's another rulebreaker... The same saltmarsh in the evening  The focus is soft (needed a tripod really). In the first picture, the subject was the light - in the sky and on the water and mud. In this, the light wasn't so important - the subject was the symmetry about the centre of the picture. I could crop the sky or the water to give the rule of thirds effect, but to me, this would diminish the effect that the expanse of sky and water bring to the centre line. Works for me. I only point the thing - what do I know? lol Regards - John |
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Post by herron on Oct 29, 2009 10:20:36 GMT -5
Oh no... I didn't break the rules of photography again did I? Oh well - it's five o'clock somewhere! Have one for me, John! ;D  |
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Post by John Parry on Nov 1, 2009 0:57:13 GMT -5
Ron
Always 5 o'clock in Margaritaville!
Regards - John
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