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Post by John Parry on Jun 13, 2010 6:53:56 GMT -5
As usual there's been criticism in the press of the England fans' "moronic" tendency to add the extra syllable (Ingerland) in their songs and chants. In fact however, the original name for the 'English Speaking' parts of the country (which incidentally included large parts of Lowland Scotland), was Englaland.
So, far from being guilty of an ignorant corruption of the country's name, England supporters are in fact at the forefront of a scholarly movement to return the nation to its historical origins....
Not a lot of people know that....
Regards - John
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Post by daveh on Jun 13, 2010 10:09:19 GMT -5
The trouble is a lot of people live in la-la land. John, that is what I like about here: the occasional pearl of useful information.
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Post by GeneW on Jun 13, 2010 10:48:37 GMT -5
John, before pronunciation shifted, wasn't it originally Anglaland (perhaps spelt Angleland), land of the Angles?
It's amazing how many Anglo-Saxon words and word formation rhythms persist. To my ear, Ingerland fits the mould.
Gene
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Post by Randy on Jun 13, 2010 15:50:24 GMT -5
Al-u-min-ium
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Post by mickeyobe on Jun 13, 2010 17:18:43 GMT -5
Loo.
Mickey
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Post by John Parry on Jun 13, 2010 20:26:46 GMT -5
Very well Mickey, you're excused. Hurry back...
Randy - we've discussed the 'I' in aluminium before, and how you can't bring yourselves to pronounce it. Ha!
Regards - John
lol
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Post by John Parry on Jun 13, 2010 20:42:43 GMT -5
Gene
The whole thing about spelling, and the differences across the Atlantic are caused by those pronunciation changes. At around the time that the printing presses were getting into full swing, and incidentally 'cementing' the spelling to reflect the pronunciation at the time, the pronunciation was undergoing a massive change. Do you live in a house or a hoose? Do you listen to the news or the noos? We're totally schizophrenic over here, because the changes occurred in some parts of the country, but are still in progess in others. The only thing I'm sure about is that I'll never make a confirmatory or negatory statement in my life. I'll stick to Yes or No.
Regards - John
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Post by Randy on Jun 13, 2010 22:05:41 GMT -5
It's like certain parts of England do not live in a house, they live in a hise.
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Post by daveh on Jun 14, 2010 2:52:19 GMT -5
Sometimes the American pronunciation is closer to the old English than English English is: on the other hand sometimes it isn't.
Take the word schedule. American English has it pronounced as skedule. English English has it has shedule. Which was the old pronunciation? Well neither, apparently it was saidule.
Randy, the queen certainly lives in a hise. Oop north we live in 'ouses.
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Post by Randy on Jun 14, 2010 12:00:59 GMT -5
LOL!
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