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Post by photax on Aug 8, 2010 15:23:20 GMT -5
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Post by daveh on Aug 8, 2010 16:01:36 GMT -5
Has photography really progressed in terms of the final result in the eighty five years or so since these photos were taken?
I wonder if any of those pictured are still alive. One or two of the little ones might be, but they would have seen plenty of turmoil in their lifetime. I know the Marx Brothers (bottom photo) are now all gone. Or, perhaps they were Queen and were rehearsing Bohemian Rhapsody.
Wonderful photos. More, please, if you have them.
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Post by Doug T. on Aug 8, 2010 16:17:57 GMT -5
Hi MIK ! Those are great photos! Do you have the plates they were printed from? Maybe they're playing the theme music from "The Third Man".
Doug
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Post by nikonbob on Aug 8, 2010 16:23:06 GMT -5
MIK
Keep them coming as you get a chance to scan more. I'll go along with Dave and say that these may not be surpassed today. Maybe we just keep reinventing the wheel. Thanks for posting them.
Bob
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Post by PeterW on Aug 8, 2010 17:55:33 GMT -5
Wonderful pictures, Mik. Any idea what the camera was or did you just find the plates in a flea market? How did you date them to 1924?
You mention inflation in that year. I believe that was the year the Schilling replaced the Krone, and the introduction of the Rentenmark in Germany, both in an attempt to stabilise the currency and stop hyperinflation. Many people found their life savings virtually worthless.
Getting back to the pictures, in those days the plates would have been orthochromatic emulsion, but the insensitivity to red doesn't notice.
The orchestra of guitar, two mandolins and a button accordion must have sounded great!
In 1924 I assume that this picture was taken with flash powder, and the even spread of light is amazing. Obviously an experienced photographer who judged the amount of flash powder just right. Judging from the shadows the flash was held quite high to the right - or it may have been bounced off a large reflector.
Photographers in those days used techniques that are almost forgotten these days. They had to because of what we would now regard as technical shortcomings of their equipment.
But their results stand up to comparison with those of today's "advanced" equipment. They just took a lot more trouble over each shot than most of us do today.
PeterW
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Post by mickeyobe on Aug 8, 2010 20:49:07 GMT -5
MIK,
After seeing your superb pictures I am just about ready to dump my Pentax digital and go to my 8 x 10 Gundlach Korona or one of my Graflex's.
Mickey
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Post by daveh on Aug 9, 2010 2:15:02 GMT -5
I have a copy of an 8x6 photo of my grandfather and uncle taken I would think in the late 1920s or early 30s. The original photo is pin sharp. I scanned it on the reasonable resolution. Then on a higher resolution: then a section of it on the highest I could. The detail just kept coming. I don't know how many megapixels the original negative/plate would represent, but certainly far more than anything around today can deliver.
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Post by photax on Aug 9, 2010 7:20:23 GMT -5
Hi ! Have many thanks for your kind comments. I have many boxes full of glass-plates, I guess they are a several hundred. From time to time you find them at local flea-markets for ca. 1.- a box ( or less ), because nobody else seems to want them. After some cleaning and putting a silica-gel pack in the box, they are nearly everlasting. Some of the plates are individual wrapped in paper, on which the photographer wrote information about the year, the object and details for developing. For Instance: 1926, Vienna, 6 candles, 12 seconds, Ridax paper. Peter you are right, they are copied from “orthochromatic” plates. The inflation rate had been a good deal worse in Germany. My grandfather kept a “ One Billion Mark” note from 1924 as a reminder of these days. He told me, that you got a loaf of bread in exchange for this note… MIK
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