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Post by olroy2044 on Aug 18, 2012 17:14:49 GMT -5
OK, Canon people, I need some help! A few days ago I was given this nice, but dirty AE-1. Everything worked, the seals are --ok--as is the bumper. Shutter sounds good, the meter was accurate (as measured against a known accurate hand meter) at the set film speed of ASA 200. Got out a roll of Fuji 400 to test it. Set the film speed dial to 400-----------------or rather I tried to set the dial to 400. Dial wouldn't move. Opened the manual (downloaded from the Butkus site--What would we do without that site?), and followed the directions. The directions said, and I quote "If the ASA dial will not move, turn the shutter speed dial to the stop at either B or 1000, lift the ring, and set the speed" Did that------------Turned the ASA dial, and it slowly moved in the direction of 400, when I felt something give! Now the shutter speed dial turns the equivalent of about 1 stop farther than it is supposed to, and the meter needle drops immediately to the bottom of the scale as soon as the meter is activated in any manner. I BROKE IT! Any suggestions before I start into it to see how badly I boogered it up? Also, I have never seen a lens exactly like this one before. Anyone know anything about it? Good build quality, all metal, and very smooth. Will have to try it on my FTb to see if it's any good. ol(hamhanded!)roy
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Post by daveh on Aug 18, 2012 17:45:31 GMT -5
Roy, I'm the wrong sort of Canon person: rangefinder or recent, but nothing in between.
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Post by mickeyobe on Aug 19, 2012 14:49:43 GMT -5
Roy,
Wish I could help. I have small Canon collection but so far they all work and don't need any exploratory surgery. Something which pleases all of them. And me.
The lens is a mystery to me. A quick Google check says it was made by Hanimex.
Mickey
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Post by vintageslrs on Aug 19, 2012 18:47:18 GMT -5
Roy
On that asa speed---did you lift or raise the adjusting dial while turning it? It is a bit awkward but it must be raised and twisted at the same time to change the asa.
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Post by olroy2044 on Aug 19, 2012 23:57:14 GMT -5
Hi Bob,
Yes I lifted and turned at the same time. It is supposed to work the same as on my FTb. My Minoltas and my Spottie also use the same type of adjustment.
Roy
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Post by tsiya on Aug 20, 2012 6:07:18 GMT -5
If you think it's a bad lens I've got an extra I can send to you. I know it works on my AE1.
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Post by mickeyobe on Aug 20, 2012 15:30:49 GMT -5
Roy,
I just checked my AE-1 and it works.
I did have trouble at first until Mr. Butkus' manual, No.6, page 9, first picture on the left, showed the advance lever sticking out about 90 degrees. I tried that and although it was a little finicky it worked. I did set the shutter speed at 1000.
I never before realized what an excellent camera it is.
"Any suggestions before I start into it to see how badly I boogered it up?" Does the meter cut out when you have turned the shutter speed dial beyond its normal range? Is it operative between 1 and 1000 sec. I noticed that it shuts down when the light level is too high or too low to give a reading.
Mickey
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Post by olroy2044 on Aug 20, 2012 20:32:54 GMT -5
Tsiya, thanks for the generous offer, but I don't think it is the lens. The meter acts the same regardless of whether or not a lens is mounted. Mickey, the meter was working perfectly (at asa 200) prior to my trying to change the setting. The ring felt very stiff, but did reluctantly move a little ways (with the ring pulled up) prior to --whatever it was-happening. The ring was also very hard to pull up, not free at all, as if though contaminated by congealed lubricant or something similar. I considered the Ronsonol treatment, but didn't want to get the fluid into any electronic parts. After the "stop(?)" gave way, the shutter speed dial now goes past the 1000 setting about the equivalent of one step before hitting the stop. Turning it the other way, it goes about the same distance past "B." Any time the meter is activated, either by pressing the shutter button half way down, or by hitting the battery check, the needle rockets to the bottom of the scale. BTW, I was very impressed by the fast response time of the meter prior to my mucking it up. Roy PS Just to be sure, I just now switched lenses back and forth from my FTb and the AE1. Both lenses work on the FTb, and neither makes any difference on the AE1. A-A-A-R-R-GH!
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Post by Berndt on Aug 20, 2012 21:10:51 GMT -5
Sorry, same here ... I wouldn't even say, that I can repair recent cameras. My skills and knowledge are ending with the beginning of the electric era in the 60s. I have an AE-1, but it is also not working ( anymore ). On my camera, it's the shutter. I thought about a repair, but when I opened the camera, I gave up on that and bought a functional FTb instead. Those old Canon SLRs are quite cheap here in Japan.
Good luck with yours !!!
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Post by mickeyobe on Aug 21, 2012 2:41:59 GMT -5
Tsiya, thanks for the generous offer, but I don't think it is the lens. I considered the Ronsonol treatment, but didn't want to get the fluid into any electronic parts. Well, with almost all hope nearly gone, perhaps a little of that magic elixir might perform a miracle. It vooden hoit! Mickey
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Post by vintageslrs on Aug 21, 2012 9:59:45 GMT -5
Roy
The camera still functions as long as you don't need a meter, correct? If that is so let me remind you that the camera will still take great photos as long as you use a hand held meter or my "meter in your head" tactic (which I will be happy to email you privately if you wish).
Bob
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Post by hansz on Aug 21, 2012 10:07:51 GMT -5
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Post by vintageslrs on Aug 21, 2012 12:50:23 GMT -5
Yes, except that link is much more complicated than need be for most folks. My system is much simpler and works the same.
Bob
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Post by mickeyobe on Aug 21, 2012 15:03:42 GMT -5
Fred Parker's extraordinarily comprehensive article covers just about any eventuality. It wasn't written when I discovered, as a newly minted teenager, a sheet of paper in a box of Kodak Verichrome that in a few words and illustrations taught me in minutes the Sunny 16 Rule. It has stood me in good stead for 60+ years and I have yet to change its battery. Although, to be honest, I never cared for or used the Exposure Value System. Mickey
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Post by olroy2044 on Aug 21, 2012 21:58:03 GMT -5
Bob, you are absolutely correct. In fact the camera is already loaded and ready to go ;D I'm just really ticked off at myself for screwing up a nice camera A freshly calibrated hand meter resides permanently in my bag, although I rarely use it. Sunny Sixteen usually works well for me with my non-metered cameras. That being said, however, I would like to see your "meter in my head" method. Thanks everyone for your replies. Will shoot a roll and see what happens. Really curious about that strange little zoom Still disgusted, Roy
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