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Post by der84 on Mar 6, 2015 17:06:08 GMT -5
Three recent plastic cameras added to the collection. Sawyer's Nomad 620 (1957-1963) With box and bulbs Hosted on FotkiAgfa Trolix (Box 14) (1936-1940) Hosted on FotkiAnsco Panda; (1939-1950) Considered as a child's toy camera. Hosted on FotkiI've noticed that all three cameras are made of a different type of plastic. The Nomad I believe is made of bakelite, the Trolix is made of trolite and the Panda is made of polystyrene. Kind of interesting. Have been busy lately, but will post more cameras from the collection soon. Cheers! Derek
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Post by der84 on Feb 25, 2015 19:00:55 GMT -5
A lovely selection of folders. You appear to take great care in selecting models for your collection. I agree. I think we have a serious collector here who is not just interested in gathering a bunch of old cameras to distribute on liveroom tables, but someone interested in the history of photographic technology. David Thanks David I just love finding all sorts of different models and reading up on them, the different designs, why they were designed the way they were. As well as reading about the history on them, the big sellers, the failures, the rare ones, the models that tie into the JFK Assasination, as well as the history on the camera companies themselves, etc......I could go on. Haha
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Post by der84 on Feb 25, 2015 18:49:30 GMT -5
A very nice collection of really odd ball cameras. My compliments. My Kandor arrived in pretty rough condition but with a little cleaning, it came out looking almost new. The Lomography copies are wonderful, IMO. The history of the Irwin cameras on the Web is rather suspect, though. They were never sardine cans and the Chicago mafia never had anything to do with the company. The best source for the history of Irwin is in "Glass, Brass, and Chrome" which is a very interesting book for collectors though it too receives some criticism. Note that the insert that came with the camera is from Harold Products of Chicago, whereas, the camera is from Irwin in New York City. Sylvain Halgand has a very interesting and entertaining site which includes a history of the Kandor candid cameras. It is written with a lot of humor and is perhaps the single most common source of the sardine can myth. If one reads his site carefully, you will notice his following comment: "This history is…. a history, only a history, which proves that with conviction one can tell any sh.. on Internet. There, it is beautiful. Excuse is delirious it. Make starts to me from your reactions." I even see references to Elliot Ness regarding the Kandor camera. Actually, Ness was long gone from the FBI by late 1930's and Irwin was making the Kandor. By that time Ness was in charge of the Fire Department in Cleveland, Ohio. So the location of New York on the Irwin cameras was due to the fact that they were located in New York. My Kandor after some minor restoration by removing the surface corrosion and dirt.. The Lomography copy of the Irwin Kandor. I also think your choices of the Ensign Cupid and Purma Special are especially good as well. I am still searching for a good example of the Cupid similar to yours. David Thanks for the info David. Great looking Kandor camera you have. I'm still hoping to find more of the Irwin cameras for my collection. Yes, Sylvain Halgand has an amazing site with so much info on it. I wonder how many of the cameras are actually his? As I understand he has a huge collection himself. There is also some info done by a collector named John Kratz called the "Chicago Cluster" about the select candid camera models with many different names all produced at the same address in Chicago. You mentioned Harold Products of Chicago, as that was one of the names used. So I'm wondering if the Irwin camera models tie in with that? Gotta love camera history. Derek
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Post by der84 on Feb 24, 2015 21:42:00 GMT -5
Competitions in here.. no prize - just for fun. Alas the 'our pictures' thread doesn't do much these days - it seems that my cameras thread has taken over in popularity. It's nice to see you looking at old posts and being an active member. I started that way. So many people turn up then disappear. I reckon you're here for the long run. I hope anyway. It's a friendly forum with a few regulars taking part all the time, but its great to see some of the longer standing members posting with their wisdom from time to time. Then there's Mickey... with his own brand of humour... Ah ok, I gotcha. Yeah, I'm thinking I'll be on here for awhile. Seems like a cool place as well as another excuse to post camera pics and talk about them....haha.
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Post by der84 on Feb 24, 2015 21:35:40 GMT -5
I've been collecting a couple of years now - almost anything coming my way - mostly 1954 to 1957 but I'm stretching that a bit. Some stuff must go. Out of interest where are you based? I'm based in Sarnia, Ontario. A small city on the border with Port Huron Michigan. Yourself?
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Post by der84 on Feb 24, 2015 21:28:14 GMT -5
Here are a few odd ball cameras from my collection that I wasn't really sure where to post. Ensign Cupid (Houghton-Butcher) 1922. This camera is just different all over. Different shape, (T-shape) different look with the over-sized bullseye view finders. Also, a pretty interesting shutter. In order to cock the shutter, you need to pull up on the plunger knob, located on top of the lens housing and then pushing the shutter trigger on the left hand side. Almost like a pin-hole camera as the lens is so small. Hosted on FotkiKandor Jr. Made by the Irwin Camera Corp. of New York in 1939. A candid camera shaped like a sardine can, like many of their other models. This one is in a little rough shape, but is still a favorite of mine. Hosted on FotkiPurma Special 1937 I always love finding cameras that have unique features to them. Most collectors will know of this one because of not only it's streamline design, but also because of the shutter speed feature. Depending on how you hold this camera, will depend on how fast or slow the shutter fires. How cool is that! Hosted on FotkiDerek
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Post by der84 on Feb 24, 2015 20:28:59 GMT -5
A lovely selection of folders. You appear to take great care in selecting models for your collection. Thanks Phil. I love all of the different camera designs and researching the history on them. I usually collect most cameras up to about the mid 60's. Box cameras, folders, bakelite, art deco, tlrs....etc. I've been collecting for just over a year so far
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Post by der84 on Feb 24, 2015 20:24:28 GMT -5
Thank you Dave. Much appreciated. That's not even half of it though...haha. And you will show us the rest...? or will you drip feed it like the other Dave (Genazzano) into the 'our cameras A-Z' under the competitions tab. Competitions tab? Oh is there another spot for posting multiple camera photos? I'm fairly new here so I'm still getting used to where everything is. Haha....yes overtime I will be posting more.
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Post by der84 on Feb 24, 2015 12:59:14 GMT -5
The Brownie's bellows looked reddish on my iPad. If the red bellows are original, they are all chromate tanned red leather from Russis. Kodak stopped importing the red leather in 1912. We had an earlier thread on cleaning and preserving bellows, especially the red leather ones. If they haven't been ruined by well meaning owners, they can be restored to brilliant red. Similarly the black bellows are treated the same. David Ah ok. Could possibly be the lighting mixed with your screens color settings. that made the bellows look riddish. Interesting, I'll have to look into that.
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Post by der84 on Feb 24, 2015 7:52:14 GMT -5
Very nicely done, Derek. The Agfa-Ansco cameras are favorites of mine. I do not have the Brownie in my collection. Are they red leather bellows? I too use Fotki, thanks to Phil. Do you have a link? David The Brownie? I take it you mean the first camera I posted? No it has black bellows. ****EDIT**** Sorry, I think I may have misread your post. I believe the red bellowed cameras are leather yes. I'm not for sure certain, but I'm thinking they are.
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Post by der84 on Feb 23, 2015 23:13:19 GMT -5
For all their simplicity, plastic cameras like these are more fun to collect than any SLR or RF I can name. Basic shutters and film advance but some amazing shapes and names. Sorry I know this is a late post. Fantastic collection Mik. Curt, I would have to agree completely with you on that. One of the many reasons why I love collecting cameras is so many shapes and design they came in.
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Post by der84 on Feb 23, 2015 22:47:07 GMT -5
That is a great looking collection. Dave Thank you Dave. Much appreciated. That's not even half of it though...haha.
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Post by der84 on Feb 23, 2015 22:11:15 GMT -5
Here are just a select few folders from my camera collection. No.2 Folding Autographic Brownie (1915-16) This model itself was produced from 1915-26, but the square edges of the casing dates this camera at around 1915-16. They changed to rounder edges after 1917. Hosted on FotkiKodak Six-16 Folding Camera 1932-37. Many variations of this camera were made. Hosted on FotkiAnsco No.1a Readyset Royals 1928-32. First one is the Silver Fox and the second one is the Ostrich Skin. These were made to be in direct competition with the colored Kodaks at the time. Hosted on FotkiHosted on FotkiNo.1A Folding Pocket Kodak Model C 1906-09. Hosted on FotkiNo.3 Folding Pocket Kodak Model C-5 1908-09. I believe this model had the most model variations produced out of all the Kodaks. Hosted on FotkiNo.1A Poclet Kodak 1926-32. The A stands for Autographic as this was one of several Kodak cameras that used the special Autographic film at the time. Hosted on FotkiI'm Not really much into the Polaroid cameras, but two of my favourites would include the Polaroid 95 series in which I have the 95B and my other favourite would be the Polaroid 80 series in which I have the Polaroid 80A. Fact about the 80A is that it was used to take the famous photo of JFK seconds after he was shot. Hosted on FotkiHosted on FotkiDerek
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Post by der84 on Feb 23, 2015 21:44:13 GMT -5
I bought a box and manual for one of my cameras. I paid over the odds I think for an empty box but I'm happy with it. Meh.....I think we've all spent a little more then we should have at one point haha.....Oh well. Every collector does it. But sometimes, it's better to have the whole package of something.
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Post by der84 on Feb 22, 2015 20:35:49 GMT -5
Take one broken box camera and a roll colour film , knock out the plastic lens and relace with a 300 micron pinhole.. just the camera for taking a self portrait. 90 sec exposure, taken on one of the Albany Film Users Group AFUG film days. and the camera Very cool Col.
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