It is really spring

[nikonbob]

You know it is really spring around here when you see people fishing for steelhead as soon as the ice is gone.

Bob

[John Parry]

Steelhead - had to look it up there. You mean sea-trout! Delicious. Strangely, they are finding their way into our once-polluted rivers, and doing well there, while the population of the non-polluted rivers seems to be declining. Maybe they just like a change!

Regards - John

[nikonbob]

John

I had to look up sea trout to see what that meant. The ones here are actually freshwater rainbow trout that spawn in from Lake Superior. Around here the two terms are used interchangeably and not correctly so from what I read. They tell me they are delicious but I don't eat fish. They sure are pretty when they first come out of the water.

Bob

[doubs43]

It's been mid-to-high 80's here the past few days and that ain't Spring weather! More like Summer and I could do with a couple of months of 60 degree days.

Walker - Sweatin' up a storm in GA

[Reiska]

Here something for you to cook up, smoke-cure or roast.
For me this was even more difficult. I had to look up twice but
I learned a lot about the English names of these delicious fishes ;D

Steelhead (rainbow trout)---Salmo gairdneri ,kirjolohi

Trout (freshwater trout)----Salmo s.m. Sebago ,järvitaimen

Trout (sea trout)-----------Salmo trutta ,merilohi

Brown trout ("creek trout") --Salmo trutta fario ,tammukka, forelli

Reijo

[kiev4a]

Reijo:

Here we consider the Steelhead and Rainbow two different varieties of fish although I guess they are related. The Steelhead is larger and migrates to the sea as part of its life cycle, while the Rainbow is strictly a freshwater fish.

[John Parry]

Thankyou Wayne!

Wiki says: The brown trout (Salmo trutta morpha fario and S. trutta morpha lacustris) and the sea trout (S. trutta morpha trutta) are fish of the same species distinguished chiefly by the fact that the brown trout is largely a freshwater fish, while the sea trout shows anadromous reproduction, migrating to the oceans for much of its life and returning to freshwater only to spawn. The lacustrine morph of brown trout is most usually potamodromous, migrating from lakes into rivers or streams to spawn, although there is some evidence of stocks which spawn on wind-swept shorelines of lakes. S. trutta morpha fario form stream-resident populations, typically in alpine streams but sometimes in larger rivers, as well. There is evidence that anadromous and non-anadromous morphs coexisting in the same river can be genetically identical [1]. In common usage, the name "brown trout" is often applied indiscriminately to the various morphs.

Got that? OK! (Can't believe I said that !!)

Regards - John

[Reiska]

Thank you John. Everything is now for me clear as a water.

Btw, those small ones, are they called Salmonella ?? ;D ;D

[kiev4a]

In our region the purist fishermen have mixed emotions about the Brown Trout. They aren't native and were introduced probably about the beginning of the 20th century. In many areas the Browns almost immediately destroyed the native rainbow population.

As for your definition, John, what language is that?

Regards

Wayne

[mickeyobe]

Thanks John,

That clarifies everything.
When I used to fly fish I always thought I was catching rainbow and speckled trout. Now I know they were really potamadromous morphs. Had I known I would have used different flies and not come home with an empty creel so often.

Mickey >{ Former Piscator o)

[Reiska]

kiev4a said:

Reijo:

Here we consider the Steelhead and Rainbow two different varieties of fish although I guess they are related. The Steelhead is larger and migrates to the sea as part of its life cycle, while the Rainbow is strictly a freshwater fish.

That's right, they are different varieties. In the ocean lives also a "steelhead" (near related?), a fish that we call lohi its name in Latin is "Salmo salar" and it lives in a sea and returns to the freshwater to spawn. An English name could be, salmon or Atlantic salmon.

Rainbow trout (Oncorhynchus mykiss) "Kamloops" is a fish that lives only in the lakes and streams. It is a North American fish that belongs to the larger family of salmoniforms. Here it is called "sateenkaarirautu" (trout) literally translated "Rainbow trout". We have it here only in a fish counters and freezers.

I tried to write this in English, just like John his part of the story
Mickey uses often Latin phrases and words. I think here we have
another with a classical education.

The weather here is sunny but cool, 50 Fahrenheit but the spring and the birds are coming and the lakes and rivers are free from the ice. In the Lapland (North) there is still plenty of snow.

[mickeyobe]

Reijo,

You don't really think I know what I am talking about do you?

Mickey

[Reiska]

Mickey,

You get too many such hits that could sink a ship. It proves, that you have to understand what you are talking about.

March was here 6 degrees warmer than a long time average temperature. The highest temperature of all times (measured) was beaten three times. It is nice to have an early spring but there is something frightening in it too.

[Just Plain Curt]

Hi Reijo,
We had a mild winter combined with a lack of rain last summer. The result is that Lake Superior, the second largest fresh water lake in the world is down at least 18 inches (approx. 45 cm.) Don't know how it'll affect shipping but at three local bays I photograph, you can walk out close to 100 yards without getting your shoes damp.

[mickeyobe]

Reijo,

Toronto has had a relatively mild winter this year but I am not at all worried. When I was a teenager we had milder ones. Old mother earth periodically goes through warm cycles and cold cycles and they may last for longer or shorter periods of time. Mankind and the other of earth's creatures are very adaptable. I know because Darwin told me so.

Now the fear mongers can attach a catchy name to a warming cycle - Global Warming - and scare everyone to death. And they can get their faces in the newspapers and on television and they can speak in public for spectacular fees and they can promote and sell their science fiction books. All this despite the fact that their "facts" are never completely factual and their "science" is mostly unscientific.

I don't believe mankind with all his carelessness can have the slightest appreciable effect on the earth's overall temperature or climate. Locally, perhaps, when a forest or jungle is destroyed. But forest fires, volcanoes and other natural sources spew far, far more "greenhouse gasses" ( another great marketing phrase ) into the atmosphere than anything mankind does.

One must look at both sides of the latest doomsday theory and then, hopefully, come to a reasoned conclusion.

Was it Roosevelt or Churchill who said "We have nothing to fear but fear itself."

There are far more things happening on our planet about which we should be concerned.


I am going out to happily take some pictures of our warming planet.
Yes. It is warmer today than it was yesterday. Horrors!

Well, I should really get taken to task for this little diatribe.

Mickey