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Post by vintageslrs on Oct 12, 2005 15:20:55 GMT -5
Rachel thank you for the info. and that site.....I will be studying it later......from a brief look...I think there are many models to add to the Cosina-made SLR list. now as far as putting that list in alphabetical order..... here's the problem---the list was put on an Excel spreadsheet and as we gathered models they were added. I try to keep it somewhat organized by adding and eliminating rows as we go but...... Now unless someone (who knows all the ins and outs of Excel) can inform me as to an easy way, using Excel, to have this list always appear in alphbetical order (I'd be more than happy for the help) ---it's gonna have remain in a state that requires a little searching to see every model.  and maybe that is appropriate considering all the searching it took to compile the list---LOL. ;D when I post the current list as I will do in the next post---I just copy and paste from the Excel workbook. be well.......be happy Bob Bob |
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Post by vintageslrs on Oct 12, 2005 15:24:23 GMT -5
the current list (til I can research that site):
Cosina made SLRs
COSINA C1
COSINA C2
COSINA CT-1
COSINA CT-1EX
COSINA CX-2
COSINA CT-1A
COSINA CT-1G
COSINA CT-1 SUPER
COSINA CS-1
COSINA CS-2
COSINA CS-3
COSINA CT-4
COSINA CT-7
COSINA CT-7D
COSINA CT-9
COSINA CT-10
COSINA CT-20
COSINA CT-90
COSINA EL SOLAR
COSINA HI-LITE
COSINA HI-LITE HDL
COSINA HI-LITE EC
COSINA HI-LITE 405
OLYMPUS OM-2000
ARGUS STL-1000
CANON T60
NIKON FM-10
NIKON FE-10
RICOH XR-1
RICOH KR-5
RICOH KR-500
RICOH KR-5 SUPER2
RICOH SINGLEX TLS
RICOH KR-10 SUPER
CARENA CX-300
CARENA CX-500
CARENA KSM-1
CARENA KSM-2
EXAKTA TWIN TL
EXAKTA HS-2
EXAKTA HS-4
EXAKTA HS-3
EXAKTA HS-10
EXAKTA HS-40
EXAKTA KE-5
MIRANDA MS-1
CAVALIER MSTL
VIVITAR 220SL
VIVITAR 420SL
VIVITAR 650SL
VIVITAR XV2
VIVITAR XV3
VIVITAR V2000
VIVITAR V6000
HANIMEX DR-1
ELICAR MN-1
SEARS SL2
SEARS TLS
NIKKOREX F
YASHICA FX-3 SUPER 2000
PRINZFLEX SUPER TTL
PENTAX P30T
PETRI GX-1
PETRI GX-2
PETRI GX-3
PETRI GX-4
PETRI MF2
PETRI MF3
PETRI MF4
PETRI MF101
PETRI MF102
PETRI MF103
PETRI MF104
SOLIGAR SC-1
QUANTARAY R400
QUANTARAY RZ800
QUANTARAY DZ-RZ
TOPCON AM-1
SEIMAX SV7
SEIMAX SV9
CIMKO LS-1
HAKING HG1
HAKING HG2
KENLOCK KG1
PANAGOR CT1EX
PANAGOR CT90
BAUER RX1
BAUER RX2
VOIGTLANDER VSL 43
ZODEL 2MTL
Bob
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Post by Rachel on Oct 12, 2005 15:31:27 GMT -5
now as far as putting that list in alphabetical order..... here's the problem---the list was put on an Excel spreadsheet and as we gathered models they were added. I try to keep it somewhat organized by adding and eliminating rows as we go but...... Now unless someone (who knows all the ins and outs of Excel) can inform me as to an easy way, using Excel, to have this list always appear in alphbetical order (I'd be more than happy for the help) ---it's gonna have remain in a state that requires a little searching to see every model. and maybe that is appropriate considering all the searching it took to compile the list- Ouch !! I asked for that didn't I I'm no Excel expert but in the Excel Toolbar under Data is the option Sort. I've just tried it on one of my files and you have to be careful not to just sort one column if there are more than one. |
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Post by vintageslrs on Oct 12, 2005 15:34:25 GMT -5
Rachel thanks for the suggestion....I will be very happy to try it- ;D--hope it works.  Bob |
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Post by Rachel on Oct 12, 2005 15:39:13 GMT -5
Please please make a copy of your original before experimenting. I'd hate to be the cause of the destruction of the list  |
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Post by vintageslrs on Oct 12, 2005 16:30:47 GMT -5
Rachel LOL. yes I have a copy saved, so when I start to mess with it....that copy won't be touched til I know it is successful--LOL. I'm gonna try what Peter said....I tried once prior to seeeing Peter's instructions and it was a failure  so perhaps with Peter's directions---it will work ;D thanks to all for the help Bob |
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Post by vintageslrs on Oct 12, 2005 16:47:01 GMT -5
COSINA MADE SLRs
ARGUS STL-1000
BAUER RX1
BAUER RX2
CANON T60
CARENA CX-300
CARENA CX-500
CARENA KSM-1
CARENA KSM-2
CAVALIER MSTL
CIMKO LS-1
COSINA C1
COSINA C2
COSINA CT-1
COSINA CT-1EX
COSINA CX-2
COSINA CT-1A
COSINA CT-1G
COSINA CT-1 SUPER
COSINA CS-1
COSINA CS-2
COSINA CS-3
COSINA CT-4
COSINA CT-7
COSINA CT-7D
COSINA CT-9
COSINA CT-10
COSINA CT-20
COSINA CT-90
COSINA EL SOLAR
COSINA HI-LITE
COSINA HI-LITE HDL
COSINA HI-LITE EC
COSINA HI-LITE 405
ELICAR MN-1
EXAKTA TWIN TL
EXAKTA HS-2
EXAKTA HS-4
EXAKTA HS-3
EXAKTA HS-10
EXAKTA HS-40
EXAKTA KE-5
HAKING HG1
HAKING HG2
HANIMEX DR-1
KENLOCK KG1
MIRANDA MS-1
NIKKOREX F
NIKON FM-10
NIKON FE-10
OLYMPUS OM-2000
PANAGOR CT1EX
PANAGOR CT90
PENTAX P30T
PETRI GX-1
PETRI GX-2
PETRI GX-3
PETRI GX-4
PETRI MF2
PETRI MF3
PETRI MF4
PETRI MF101
PETRI MF102
PETRI MF103
PETRI MF104
PRINZFLEX SUPER TTL
QUANTARAY R400
QUANTARAY RZ800
QUANTARAY DZ-RZ
RICOH XR-1
RICOH KR-5
RICOH KR-500
RICOH KR-5 SUPER2
RICOH SINGLEX TLS
RICOH KR-10 SUPER
SEARS SL2
SEARS TLS
SEIMAX SV7
SEIMAX SV9
SOLIGAR SC-1
TOPCON AM-1
VIVITAR 220SL
VIVITAR 420SL
VIVITAR 650SL
VIVITAR XV2
VIVITAR XV3
VIVITAR V2000
VIVITAR V6000
VOIGTLANDER VSL 43
YASHICA FX-3 SUPER 2000
ZODEL 2MTL
Peter--your instructions were perfect...thank you very much...and now ...thank you Rachel for w/o your request....this would not have happened........................................................................and after dinner...I want to get to researching the site Rachel brought to my attention.
Bob
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Post by PeterW on Oct 12, 2005 17:24:43 GMT -5
Bob,
I tried with the list you posted, and it sorted OK, but the problem is that, for example, it puts CT-1A. 1EX and 1G after CT 10 because a computer normally sorts numerically first and then alphabetically so it puts 'one zero' before 'one A', 'one EX' and 'one G'. Not sure how to get round that one, because you can't get into Excel's program without the Microsoft Developer's Toolkit - and I'm not sure I could do it even if I had that. It might need a global change and affect every other spreadsheet on the same program.
One way round is to use a capital O instead of zero, but it doesn't look all that good. And then, of course, both CT-1O and CT-20 come before CT-4, -7 and -9 because the computer sees the 1 of 1O and the 2 of 20 before 4, 7 and 9. That's why computer numbering up to 999 starts 001, 002 etc. There should be a way round it, but my poor tired old brain doesn't want to find it.
EXAMPLE: Straight sort:
COSINA CT-1
COSINA CT-1 SUPER
COSINA CT-10
COSINA CT-1A
COSINA CT-1EX
COSINA CT-1G
COSINA CT-20
COSINA CT-4
COSINA CT-7
COSINA CT-7D
COSINA CT-9
COSINA CT-90
OR, with O in place of 0 in CT-1O
COSINA CT-1
COSINA CT-1 SUPER
COSINA CT-1A
COSINA CT-1EX
COSINA CT-1G
COSINA CT-1O
COSINA CT-20
COSINA CT-4
COSINA CT-7
COSINA CT-7D
COSINA CT-9
COSINA CT-90
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Post by Rachel on Oct 12, 2005 17:35:45 GMT -5
Peter,
does this really matter as we are not constructing a chronological list?
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Post by vintageslrs on Oct 12, 2005 17:45:30 GMT -5
Peter and Rachel I think it is perfectly fine the way it is now. As Rachel points out it is not a chronological list. And it is a big improvement to have all the brand names in alphabetical order. That should make it much easier to work with and to add to....so I am satisfied with the results. We can still use our brains a little and look down at a list of models within a specific brand, can't we?  Bob |
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Post by Randy on Oct 12, 2005 18:13:26 GMT -5
You guys make me smile... I'm truly blessed when it comes to friends. I wouldn't trade you for all the Seagulls in China! ;D |
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Post by vintageslrs on Oct 12, 2005 18:20:49 GMT -5
Randy
you a very FUNNY man!!!!
Bob
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Post by vintageslrs on Oct 12, 2005 18:37:50 GMT -5
OK Folks.......
here we go.......there were many in that site provided by Rachel that were distinctly Cosina-made. There were also many that were questionable. The questionable ones are omitted from this list until such time more proof has been found. But I have added 12 more to our list. We are now up to 102 and always growing.
COSINA MADE SLRs:
ARGUS STL-1000
BAUER RX1
BAUER RX2
CANON T60
CARENA CX-300
CARENA CX-500
CARENA KSM-1
CARENA KSM-2
CAVALIER MSTL
CHINON CE II
CHINON CM3
CHINON 5000SE
CHINON GAFL-ES
CHINON CHINONFLEX
CHINON CE-3
CHINON CS-4
CHINON CM-5
CHINON CM-7
CHINON CG-5
CHINON CX II
CHINON CP-X
CIMKO LS-1
COSINA C1
COSINA C2
COSINA CT-1
COSINA CT-1EX
COSINA CX-2
COSINA CT-1A
COSINA CT-1G
COSINA CT-1 SUPER
COSINA CS-1
COSINA CS-2
COSINA CS-3
COSINA CT-4
COSINA CT-7
COSINA CT-7D
COSINA CT-9
COSINA CT-10
COSINA CT-20
COSINA CT-90
COSINA EL SOLAR
COSINA HI-LITE
COSINA HI-LITE HDL
COSINA HI-LITE EC
COSINA HI-LITE 405
ELICAR MN-1
EXAKTA TWIN TL
EXAKTA HS-2
EXAKTA HS-4
EXAKTA HS-3
EXAKTA HS-10
EXAKTA HS-40
EXAKTA KE-5
HAKING HG1
HAKING HG2
HANIMEX DR-1
KENLOCK KG1
MIRANDA MS-1
NIKKOREX F
NIKON FM-10
NIKON FE-10
OLYMPUS OM-2000
PANAGOR CT1EX
PANAGOR CT90
PENTAX P30T
PETRI GX-1
PETRI GX-2
PETRI GX-3
PETRI GX-4
PETRI MF2
PETRI MF3
PETRI MF4
PETRI MF101
PETRI MF102
PETRI MF103
PETRI MF104
PRINZFLEX SUPER TTL
QUANTARAY R400
QUANTARAY RZ800
QUANTARAY DZ-RZ
RICOH XR-1
RICOH KR-5
RICOH KR-500
RICOH KR-5 SUPER2
RICOH SINGLEX TLS
RICOH KR-10 SUPER
SEARS SL2
SEARS TLS
SEIMAX SV7
SEIMAX SV9
SOLIGAR SC-1
TOPCON AM-1
VIVITAR 220SL
VIVITAR 420SL
VIVITAR 650SL
VIVITAR XV2
VIVITAR XV3
VIVITAR V2000
VIVITAR V6000
VOIGTLANDER VSL 43
YASHICA FX-3 SUPER 2000
ZODEL 2MTL
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Post by PeterW on Oct 13, 2005 5:32:45 GMT -5
Busy little bees, weren't they?
BTW I mentioned that Prinz was the house-brand of Dixons in the UK. In case anyone doesn't know, Zodel was the house-brand name of Wallace Heaton in London - later bought by Dixons.
Peter
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Post by vintageslrs on Oct 13, 2005 13:53:20 GMT -5
Ok now, in an attempt to clear "some" of the confusion of the Cosina-made STL 1000s.....I think this kinda explains the how,what,where and when----LOL. the following info. came from Matt Denton's site and the info. came from the Argus Collectors Group. And in all fairness this was brought to my attention by "our fearless leader", Randy. According to a particularly helpful ACG member (thanks Ron!) there are multiple variations of the STL 1000, in three types: the first Petri-made model, the later Cosina-made model that is virtually the same as the Cosina Hi-Lite with the ASA dial on the front (suspiciously similar to the Ricoh Singlex) and the name "Argus" on the faceplate. Then this version (ASA dial on top), which apparently itself came in several flavors, but was essentially an upgrade to the Cosina Hi-Lite (and very like the Singlex II). It shares some unique stylings with the Hi-Lite body, notably the bottom relesase lever, unique match needle marks in the viewfinder, and 'film type reminder ring' around the rewind knob. The ones sporting an Argus Sekor lens are a little different, they have a hot shoe instead of the optional accessory shoe, are possibly made by Mamiya but have the same unique body stlyings of the Hi-Lite so it's hard to say. I know that Mamiya made a version of their MSX for Sears as the TLS 1000 MXB, maybe it's the same camera? At any rate, there is certainly speculation as to who was an OEM for whom back in the day, as Cosina, Mamiya and Ricoh were known to manufacture equipment for other brands, see Sears and Vivitar SLRs for examples (among others). One thread from my ACG source: Mamiya was an OEM in the early 60s making cameras for Argus, Sears and others, then sold the dies and tools to Ricoh who tweaked the design to come up with the Singlex and its Sears version. The very similar Cosina Hi-Lite came after that and at this point there's no telling who really made what. I've even seen the Ricoh TLS with a Mamiya lens. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- now that makes everything crystal clear right?  well, it's fun anyway. Bob |
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