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Post by herron on Oct 13, 2005 15:52:59 GMT -5
The ones sporting an Argus Sekor lens are a little different, they have a hot shoe instead of the optional accessory shoe, are possibly made by Mamiya but have the same unique body stlyings of the Hi-Lite so it's hard to say. I know that Mamiya made a version of their MSX for Sears as the TLS 1000 MXB, maybe it's the same camera? At any rate, there is certainly speculation as to who was an OEM for whom back in the day, as Cosina, Mamiya and Ricoh were known to manufacture equipment for other brands, see Sears and Vivitar SLRs for examples (among others). One thread from my ACG source: Mamiya was an OEM in the early 60s making cameras for Argus, Sears and others, then sold the dies and tools to Ricoh who tweaked the design to come up with the Singlex and its Sears version. The very similar Cosina Hi-Lite came after that and at this point there's no telling who really made what. I've even seen the Ricoh TLS with a Mamiya lens. Bob:  I'm not at home, or I would be looking for my notes! I'm not sure if Mamiya manufactured the Ricoh, or just sold the design to them. Mamiya did provide the Sekor lenses, for sure. When I get to my notes, I'll chime back in with what I found! |
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Post by Rachel on Oct 14, 2005 14:24:48 GMT -5
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Post by PeterW on Oct 14, 2005 14:39:31 GMT -5
Hi Rachel, With long URLs like this go to Tinyurl.com This is a free service that shortens long URLs - in this case to tinyurl.com/bdkoqPeter |
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Post by Rachel on Oct 14, 2005 14:53:59 GMT -5
That's very neat. Thanks Peter.
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Post by vintageslrs on Oct 14, 2005 15:16:53 GMT -5
Rachel Duly noted..... it has been added.  thank you very much Bob |
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Post by vintageslrs on Oct 18, 2005 14:31:06 GMT -5
OK
another SLR has come to my attention that is really a Cosina.
The camera retailer Porst (from Germany I think) has had many models made by other big name manufacturers. I know that for a fact, the Porst CR-7 is a Fujica AX-5....I believe many of the Porst CR series were made by Fujica.
Well, guess who made the Porst Compact Reflex---yep --Cosina...it is the Cosina CSM....so that is being added to our Cosina list.
Now of course that probably means that there is an entire line of Porst SLRs from a certain era that are all made by Cosina......so if anyone can add models by Porst that were made by Cosina....I would certainly look to verify the info. and then add them to our list!
thank you...and an updated list to follow.
Bob
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Post by vintageslrs on Oct 18, 2005 14:39:01 GMT -5
Current up to date list:
COSINA MADE SLRs
ARGUS STL-1000
BAUER RX1
BAUER RX2
CANON T60
CARENA CX-300
CARENA CX-500
CARENA KSM-1
CARENA KSM-2
CAVALIER MSTL
CHINON CE II
CHINON CM3
CHINON 5000SE
CHINON GAFL-ES
CHINON CHINONFLEX
CHINON CE-3
CHINON CS-4
CHINON CM-5
CHINON CM-7
CHINON CG-5
CHINON CX II
CHINON CP-X
CIMKO LS-1
COSINA C1
COSINA C2
COSINA CT-1
COSINA CT-1EX
COSINA CX-2
COSINA CT-1A
COSINA CT-1G
COSINA CT-1 SUPER
COSINA CS-1
COSINA CS-2
COSINA CS-3
COSINA CT-4
COSINA CT-7
COSINA CT-7D
COSINA CT-9
COSINA CT-10
COSINA CT-20
COSINA CT-90
COSINA EL SOLAR
COSINA HI-LITE
COSINA HI-LITE HDL
COSINA HI-LITE EC
COSINA HI-LITE 405
COSINA CSM
ELICAR MN-1
EXAKTA TWIN TL
EXAKTA HS-2
EXAKTA HS-4
EXAKTA HS-3
EXAKTA HS-10
EXAKTA HS-40
EXAKTA KE-5
HAKING HG1
HAKING HG2
HANIMEX DR-1
KENLOCK KG1
MIRANDA MS-1
MIRANDA MS 2
MIRANDA MEMOFLEX
NIKKOREX F
NIKON FM-10
NIKON FE-10
OLYMPUS OM-2000
PANAGOR CT1EX
PANAGOR CT90
PENTAX P30T
PETRI GX-1
PETRI GX-2
PETRI GX-3
PETRI GX-4
PETRI MF2
PETRI MF3
PETRI MF4
PETRI MF101
PETRI MF102
PETRI MF103
PETRI MF104
PORST COMPACT REFLEX
PRINZFLEX SUPER TTL
QUANTARAY R400
QUANTARAY RZ800
QUANTARAY DZ-RZ
RICOH XR-1
RICOH KR-5
RICOH KR-500
RICOH KR-5 SUPER2
RICOH SINGLEX TLS
RICOH KR-10 SUPER
SEARS SL2
SEARS TLS
SEIMAX SV7
SEIMAX SV9
SOLIGAR SC-1
TOPCON AM-1
VIVITAR 220SL
VIVITAR 420SL
VIVITAR 650SL
VIVITAR XV2
VIVITAR XV3
VIVITAR V2000
VIVITAR V6000
VOIGTLANDER VSL 43
YASHICA FX-3 SUPER 2000
ZODEL 2MTL
that's 106 and counting......
Bob
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Post by Randy on Oct 20, 2005 7:25:04 GMT -5
If the GAF L-ES was made by COSINA, then all of the other L series GAF cameras would be also, because they are pretty much identical. L-14, L-17, L-CM, L-CS and so on. The Chinon versions like the Chinon SLR model are identical too!!!
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Post by PeterW on Oct 20, 2005 8:52:21 GMT -5
Were there many Japanese SLRs that Cosina DIDN'T make?. If the list gets much longer, Bob, you might find it easier to list those!! ;D
Peter
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Post by vintageslrs on Oct 20, 2005 9:06:53 GMT -5
Peter
I was thinking the same thing!!
LOL.
Bob
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Post by vintageslrs on Oct 20, 2005 9:09:58 GMT -5
Randy
so it seems that Chinon accepted a contract to make cameras for another company and then sub-contracted to Cosina. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.
musta been some money to made somewhere eh?
Bob
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Post by herron on Oct 20, 2005 11:42:37 GMT -5
Bob: I was reading through your list above (honest!) and noticed you mention the Nikkorex F as being made by Cosina. I have to disagree, because I'm certain it was made by Mamiya for Nippon Kogaku (Nikon)... I got my information from the Nikon Historical Society www.nikonhs.org/article_archive/quest.html (the link is about 2/3 of the way down the NHS page!) NHS, some years ago, very nicely added a link back to my site for mentioning it! Looks like one you can subtract from the made-by-Cosina list! ;D |
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Post by Randy on Oct 20, 2005 22:03:33 GMT -5
Here's some more on the Nikkorex F from Stephen Gandy at CAMERA QUEST. |
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Post by vintageslrs on Oct 20, 2005 22:19:37 GMT -5
Randy and Ron
thank you!!
Randy's links explains the confusion.
Mamiya sold the rights for the design to Ricoh who must have contracted Cosina to produce their's and Sears' very similar looking models.
I have eliminated the Nikkorex F from the Cosina-made SLRs list.
Bob
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Post by herron on Oct 21, 2005 8:53:52 GMT -5
Looks like the NHS site linked to Stephen Gandy's CameraQuest site for Nikkorex F info, too! ;D |
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